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John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« on: Apr 05, 2019, 05:08:47 AM »
I am disgusted  >:( >:( >:( :puke: :puke: :puke: WHY oh why do Hollywood keep shitting all over our precious animu? Keanu was a much better choice. John Cho looks like the typical geeky guy from university ffs.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/cowboy-bebop-netflix-live-action-series-cast-1203180399/

And then that other dorky lookin mofo playing Vicious!?!? wtf! WHYYYY

At least the guy playing Jet Black and the Faye girl look ok (looks like they got her based on that one "realistic" rendering of Faye that has been going around for a while).

I hope these series crash and burn.




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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #1 on: Apr 05, 2019, 06:00:02 PM »
Keanu would have made a terrific Spike once upon a time, but he's perhaps a bit too aged now.

It's been a long time, I should probably revisit Cowboy Bebop one of these days.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #2 on: Apr 05, 2019, 07:46:45 PM »
The John Wick movies indicate that he can pull it off physically, but the age thing might be the biggest factor against at this point.

The Vicious actor is going to be in an adaptation of The Boys. I don't really know how I think about that. It's going to be a bloody mess.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #3 on: Apr 05, 2019, 08:55:28 PM »
Keanu would have made a terrific Spike once upon a time, but he's perhaps a bit too aged now.



Yes I am aware, that's why I said "was". (have you guys seen that pic of him shopped with Spike's hair? Resemblance was uncanny). Hell, even James Deen would make a better choice.


The Vicious actor is going to be in an adaptation of The Boys. I don't really know how I think about that. It's going to be a bloody mess.
That dorky fuck looks like a young Hugh Laurie.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #4 on: Apr 09, 2019, 06:47:58 PM »
1) They should just stop with the remakes and adaptations of things that were done right the first time.

2) No matter how shallow this sounds, John Cho's not hot enough to be Spike. Don't get me wrong, I like John Cho. He could be the loveable leading man in a sweet rom-com. As Spike? No. He's also missing the athleticism, the cool demeanor, and he's too damn old. He's 46. The guy playing Jet is younger than the guy playing Spike and even the guy playing Jet is too damn old. I think more older actors and actresses should be used in productions, yes, but not as the leads in Cowboy Bebop. They might as well have casted Reeves since they apparently wanted Middle-Aged Bebop. ::)

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #5 on: Feb 21, 2020, 08:43:39 AM »
1) They should just stop with the remakes and adaptations of things that were done right the first time.

2) No matter how shallow this sounds, John Cho's not hot enough to be Spike. Don't get me wrong, I like John Cho. He could be the loveable leading man in a sweet rom-com. As Spike? No. He's also missing the athleticism, the cool demeanor, and he's too damn old. He's 46. The guy playing Jet is younger than the guy playing Spike and even the guy playing Jet is too damn old. I think more older actors and actresses should be used in productions, yes, but not as the leads in Cowboy Bebop. They might as well have casted Reeves since they apparently wanted Middle-Aged Bebop. ::)

Ehm what about him being from a completely different ethnicity? Why didnt Disney make Mulan with a latin woman then? fuck is wrong with all these hollywood people. goddamn i had forgotten about this but now I'm angry again. Let's see how they fuck up One Piece too.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #6 on: Feb 24, 2020, 08:05:27 PM »
Well, ideally I would've liked a hot Japanese guy to play Spike or something. In this situation, ethnicity-fail was kinda the least of their problems tho'.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #7 on: Feb 25, 2020, 07:57:02 PM »
What race is Spike Spiegel supposed to be, anyway? He's a Martian for crying out loud.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #8 on: Feb 26, 2020, 02:30:08 PM »
I always assumed the cast of Cowboy Bebop were all Caucasian, except maybe Ed.

But I'm a cracker-ass honky, so it's probably just default bias.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #9 on: Feb 26, 2020, 10:58:43 PM »
I guess they can be anything you want them to be. I mean, nobody is going to construe Faye as an African queen or whatever, but the point is that it doesn't matter as its not really important to who any of them are. Except for Bull.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #10 on: Feb 29, 2020, 07:05:19 PM »
I always assumed the cast of Cowboy Bebop were all Caucasian, except maybe Ed.

But I'm a cracker-ass honky, so it's probably just default bias.
Even tho Faye's character was based on Faye Wong and Spike's on some japanese actor I cant remember the name, they are still obviously caucasian (except Jett Black obvi).

I guess they can be anything you want them to be. I mean, nobody is going to construe Faye as an African queen
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #11 on: Feb 29, 2020, 10:24:49 PM »
I was just talking about her look from the anime. But they can cast any race they want and it won't affect the character.

With reference to your example I struggle to see why an actress of African descent is playing a character from Atlantis, as that comes from Greek legend and to my knowledge has nothing to do with Africa and thus wouldn't likely have black mermaid princesses living there. Then again, it's neither actually Atlantis nor a real place, so I reckon they can do whatever they want with it.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #12 on: Mar 01, 2020, 07:53:39 PM »
I wouldn't have a problem with black mermaid but for the fact their adapting their own adaptation that had a ginger Ariel. I would've liked her to stay ginger tbh.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #13 on: Mar 10, 2020, 08:52:11 AM »
I was just talking about her look from the anime. But they can cast any race they want and it won't affect the character.

With reference to your example I struggle to see why an actress of African descent is playing a character from Atlantis, as that comes from Greek legend and to my knowledge has nothing to do with Africa and thus wouldn't likely have black mermaid princesses living there. Then again, it's neither actually Atlantis nor a real place, so I reckon they can do whatever they want with it.
Let's -NOT- go there.

I wouldn't have a problem with black mermaid but for the fact their adapting their own adaptation that had a ginger Ariel. I would've liked her to stay ginger tbh.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #14 on: Mar 11, 2020, 05:15:27 AM »
Speaking of live action Disney remakes, I think that Mulan looks like it could actually be okay. First time for everything, eh?

Just to be clear, that's a shot at live action Disney remakes, not Mulan. Mulan's pretty good.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #15 on: Mar 14, 2020, 04:13:04 AM »
I thought so too. But then I read there's no Shang and no Mushu?  Whyyyyyyy

Also I heard a lot of people were against it because the Mulan actress made a point of saying she is pro-chinese govt while the whole Hong Kong situation was going on

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #16 on: Mar 29, 2020, 09:55:45 AM »
I was just talking about her look from the anime. But they can cast any race they want and it won't affect the character.

With reference to your example I struggle to see why an actress of African descent is playing a character from Atlantis, as that comes from Greek legend and to my knowledge has nothing to do with Africa and thus wouldn't likely have black mermaid princesses living there. Then again, it's neither actually Atlantis nor a real place, so I reckon they can do whatever they want with it.

North Africa isn't that far from Greece. If Atlantis was somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea near Greece, it's also fairly close to modern-day Libya.

Of course, if you instead believe that video my mom shared twice on Facebook, or Aquaman, Atlantis was originally in the middle of the Sahara and it would make even more sense.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #17 on: Aug 23, 2021, 11:23:17 AM »
Pictures from the adaptation here - https://ew.com/tv/cowboy-bebop-first-look-photos-john-cho-spike-spiegel/

It's fine, I guess. I'm not surprised or hyped by any of it, really. Adaptations will never live up to source material for those that love the source.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #18 on: Aug 23, 2021, 03:31:24 PM »
I dunno, man. I'm excited to see it. I can't explain it.

Maybe it's because I revisited Knockin' on Heaven's Door not long ago and it filled me with a wistfulness for all things Bebop.

I want this. I'm sorry, Faye -- wherever you may roam.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #19 on: Aug 23, 2021, 10:49:33 PM »
There actually seems to be a sense of fun in these photos. Especially from Cho and the chick playing Faye. I probably still won't watch this but I'll give it a shot if I hear good things.

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« Reply #20 on: Aug 24, 2021, 04:11:54 PM »
The fact that the composer Yoko Kanno is back is probably what I'm most hyped about. It doesn't look like it'll bad just nothing about it makes me think, "must watch immediately."
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #21 on: Aug 31, 2021, 09:08:35 AM »
Honestly, I'd probably be more interested if this was just outright an original show.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #22 on: Aug 31, 2021, 08:31:41 PM »
It probably will be for the most part. I'll watch it and render judgment afterward.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #23 on: Sep 29, 2021, 06:57:10 PM »
I watched the opening that's available online and, well, it's basically the same as the original so of course it's good. Because it's a copy, the opening's not a great barometer for the quality of the show itself. That said, it was smart to release it and get people hyped.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #24 on: Oct 13, 2021, 08:53:46 PM »
Interesting: most of the original cast are reprising their roles in the Japanese dub of the live action show.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-10-12/original-cowboy-bebop-cast-reprise-roles-for-japanese-dub-of-live-action-series/.178383
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« Reply #25 on: Oct 14, 2021, 02:32:02 AM »
That's a pretty cool get.

I do wonder if any of them are starting to sound a little crusty, though.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #26 on: Oct 15, 2021, 08:56:33 PM »
The voice of Jet certainly is, seeing that he's dead and all.
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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #27 on: Oct 19, 2021, 08:49:55 AM »
They at least look like they're having fun.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #28 on: Oct 21, 2021, 08:27:38 PM »
Oh damn. That's too good.

I really hope the show itself is actually like that.

Be a real kick in the head if that whole style was strictly for promotion.

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Re: John Cho= Spike Spiegel? I THINK NOT
« Reply #29 on: Oct 24, 2021, 09:22:45 PM »
Oh damn. That's too good.

I really hope the show itself is actually like that.

Be a real kick in the head if that whole style was strictly for promotion.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was.