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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4020 on: Aug 04, 2016, 07:23:48 PM »
Bad movie reviews don't necessarily mean anything to me. For that matter most people's opinions on cinema don't, either.

However, I have been cautiously optimistic about this one, given that it could be great, but it also is a DC movie, and you can just about count the decent-to-good DC movies on one hand.
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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4021 on: Aug 04, 2016, 11:55:13 PM »
Okay, so Suicide Squad isn't great. It might not even be good. But it's not absolutely terrible, either. Some people are actually placing it below Fant4stic? That's patently ridiculous.

I think the main problem is that they tried to cram waaaaaay too much into one movie, and everything comes across as really fragmented and rushed. There are flashbacks throughout, and they almost seem like clips from previous movies. It's like they're beating you over the head with backstory so that you can understand the current character motivations, and it's all just so much tripe.

I'm still trying to decide if it was better than BvS. Maybe not. I'm definitely disappointed.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4022 on: Aug 05, 2016, 01:48:11 AM »
I think the main problem is that they tried to cram waaaaaay too much into one movie, and everything comes across as really fragmented and rushed. There are flashbacks throughout, and they almost seem like clips from previous movies.

That's such a fuckin' peeve of mine.  Cramming too much, I mean, although I have no love for flashbacks either.  It seems all the more common now that everything's viewed as an IP with franchise potential.  Too many characters (always with too little to do) is a real turn off.  Even shows and cartoons are doing this.  Remember when we were kids?  And we'd see a cartoon with an awesome guest character?  And, if we were lucky, we'd actually see that guy or gal maybe one more time before they'd leave forever?  Because they were fuckin' guests.  And good guests LEAVE.  We need to go back to doing that.  Scrappy Doo wouldn't be half as hated if he had left after a two episodes.

Anyway, like, even Marvel disgusts me with this.  There's too many fucking heroes and you're throwing them in every other movie.  Kill people off.  Maim them.  Send them to another dimension.  Make them into a Vegito.  I don't give a shit.  Show us the stakes are high.  Get some fucking balls.  And I haven't been near a DC movie since The Dark Knight.  At least Marvel let it snowball instead of DC who wants to be rewarded for almost no build up.  So these folks are the Suicide Squad yet---

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...most of them LIVE.  That's not even a little suicidey.  That's, like, "We're gonna call ourselves the Hardcore Kamikazes.  We knit sweaters."

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4023 on: Aug 05, 2016, 03:04:56 AM »
It's weird. With DC stuff I'm always immediately like, "I have problems with this," but with Marvel it's always, "I love this unconditionally," followed by a subsequent viewing like, "This actually isn't very good, is it?"

DC has to figure out how to trick me into enjoying their garbage.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4024 on: Aug 05, 2016, 02:17:06 PM »
I had planned to see Civil War in the theater but in the end just didn't care enough.  I'm not sure I even care about Black Panther and Captain Marvel anymore.  Feels like too little way too goddamn late.  Especially with them being shoved over for another Guardians, another Thor, and another freaking Spider-Man.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4025 on: Aug 05, 2016, 06:43:55 PM »
I'm beginning to question the longevity. Right now they seem to have this "live forever" outlook, and I just can't see it. Fatigue will set in sooner or later. Dr. Strange could be the turning point.

Also, no way Guardians 2 repeats the success of the first. No way.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4026 on: Aug 05, 2016, 06:56:01 PM »
I still wanna see Guardians 2 pretty bad. Kurt Russell as Ego. Come on.

Word has it that Suicide Squad was a hot steamy pile of over-serious depression, and then someone watched a Marvel movie and tried to inject some fun into it after principle filming was completed. So I'm not surprised to hear that it's scatter-brained. That, and the number of characters was something I was worried about. But that could make it good fodder for fan-editors, especially if a disc comes out either with a lot of the cuts or an extended edition. We'll see.

Hopefully I'll enjoy them and hearken back to the comic enough to not drop into hypercritical mode. I mean, Amanda Waller was one of my favorite characters in all of DC, so I hope they nailed her character better than the Arrow show did.
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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4027 on: Aug 05, 2016, 07:29:06 PM »
This will spoil the overall plot, so avoid reading if you plan on seeing it.

Okay, so Amanda Waller makes this team to deal with potential meta-human threats. Her linchpin member is Enchantress, who is highly volatile. Okay. Enchantress IMMEDIATELY rebels and sets into motion the central conflict of the film. The rest of the team is sent into the danger zone to rescue a VIP. As it turns out, the VIP is... Amanda Waller.

Like, for real. I can't believe this is what they came up with. I just can not.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4028 on: Aug 06, 2016, 06:36:30 AM »
^ HAHA.  I rolled by eyes so far back they went to Italy.  What the shit?  If they were really gonna go for stupid, why didn't they just make the VIP Bruce Wayne?  Ho ho.  ♪ ♫ AWK-WARD ♪ ♫  That shit would've been HILARIOUS.  They all die except Harley and Boomerang and it turns out they're saving Batman.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4029 on: Aug 06, 2016, 02:02:59 PM »
So this director, this David Ayer, you look at his track record, and all you can really think is, Suicide Squad should have been something. It should have been something, said something. It's just nothing. There's no point to any of it.

The more I think about it, the less I like it. It's destined to be one of those movies I revisit years later only to laugh uncontrollably over how incoherent it all is.

Man, fuck this movie.


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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4030 on: Aug 07, 2016, 06:04:23 AM »
Yeah, the prelim buzz around SS was hopeful because of Ayer.  Executive meddling's written all over it.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4031 on: Aug 07, 2016, 01:29:34 PM »
The movie was stupid, retarded fun. It was not a good movie, but I'm glad I went. In fact, I would say that I'm the opposite of most reviews I've read: the first part was scatterbrained with no sort of organization at all, but it came together later and made a movie. The bit with Boomerang telling Slipknot the bombs are a lie to get him to rabbit and test the explosive in their necks was straight out of issue 9 of the Ostrander series. So I actually expected that and was amused when they actually did it.

That said, there wasn't nearly enough Digger dickheadedness in this movie, though. Boomerang was a massive douche lord in the old book, and it was fabulous. Rick Flagg was a puss. Totally didn't like how he was setup. In the comics he was basically GI Joe: a "he never gives up, he'll stay 'till the fights won" type of character. Now he's a love-struck soldier boy who seems in over his head all the time. Enchantress was an intriguing route to take for a villain: she always had the potential in the comics but never really was let loose. I just hated how she looked, as the comic version would have been hot on-screen. Instead she looked like one of Swamp Thing's moss-covered vegetarian ass nuggets.

I was disappointed that Smith's Deadshot had none of the fatalistic and suicidalist outlook of the comic versions...then again, it's Will Smith starring as Will Smith: dude's like Black John Wayne. I got the feeling that El Diablo would bite it early on since he was more or less repentant and probably wanted to die, but he was too much of an unknown that changing into a fire demon was just a deus ex machina twist. Harley was well-done, and I like how the Joker was used here despite that it wasn't enough. I still don't like his look, but Leto's Joker isn't bad at all. Looking forward to the two of them in the Batfleck movie, particularly when it was shown in the movie that Harley was an accessory to the murder of Robin whose outfit we saw in the Batcave with Joker spraypaint on it during BvS.

So, yes, I actually broke down and watched Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Warrior Director's Original Vision Version before going. And while that movie was crap based on the fact hat both B & S were idiots throughout dancing on a string for a hipster apparently Darkseid quisling Luthor, they do link together rather interestingly and form a basis for more films that hopefully will suck less due to increase focus and learning from past mistakes (yeah, right). SS shared the issue of BvS that they tried to shoehorn in some stuff and characters that they could have done without, but while the latter was a slog all the way through the former had some fun bits I could appreciate all the way through.

As for the Waller rescue, yeah, it was lame, but in context it made sense that Enchantress would do that in the same town as Waller since she wanted access to what she knew. But having a crew of SEALs and Task Force X come to pick her up: that's classic her. The Wall can talk about national security until the cows come home, but her deal is that she gets her jollies controlling and, more so, manipulating powerful people...which made the mid-credits scene all the more delicious given my favorite comic cover of all time:


Anyway, the stream of consciousness thing is over for now. I'm sure I'll think of other things to say after awhile.
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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4032 on: Aug 07, 2016, 01:34:04 PM »
Oh, I forgot a couple. Katana was glossed over quite a bit. She's true to the character, and I loved her movie look. But they didn't do much with her, which given all the other characters and stuff going on it's not surprising. Hopefully she'll be back in some capacity soon.

As for Killer Croc: he's just big dumb muscle, but aside from his huge head and scaly body, I didn't find him very impressive physically. I guess I'm used to 7ft tall Crocs in the books and such. And I can't get this picture out of my head every time I see the SS version of him:
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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4033 on: Aug 07, 2016, 02:50:31 PM »
Croc, by all rights, should have been their Hulk. But I guess they didn't want to deal with even more CG.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4034 on: Aug 07, 2016, 08:54:03 PM »
Apparently Suicide Squad needs to do $750 million just to break even.

Huh?

What?

Why even make movies anymore? Good Lord!

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4035 on: Aug 09, 2016, 12:37:56 AM »
Most movies these days--especially ones attached to an IP of any sort be it a comic, movie, series--are now ridiculous, over-priced gambles to make multi-billion dollar tentpole franchises without any real vision or (artistic) risk involved.  I'm more interested in everything that isn't the movie: the process to get it made, the casting, the drama, the reviews.  There need to be more Deadpools: films with "modest" $60 million or whatever budgets that are made without guarantee of a sequel.  Just make the film and let it stand on its own.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4036 on: Aug 20, 2016, 12:08:18 AM »
Kubo. Pretty good! I was a little apprehensive going in, but yeah. Pretty damn good.

I'm tempted to watch Laika's other films now, even though ParaNorman and Boxtrolls never really appealed to me. I liked Coraline, didn't love it.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4037 on: Aug 20, 2016, 01:03:13 AM »
I remember having the same reaction to ParaNorman.  Not one of my favorite films or anything like that, but enjoyable with a bowl of nachos or whatever.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4038 on: Aug 26, 2016, 07:43:43 AM »
Finally got around to watching the Hateful Eight.
Not the best Tarantino movie but I still found it quite entertaining.

And anything with Walton Goggins in it is almost an automatic win for me anyway

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4039 on: Aug 26, 2016, 05:58:36 PM »
Yup! You watch Justified?

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4040 on: Aug 27, 2016, 01:25:56 AM »
You watch Sons of Anarchy where he played a transsexual?  That did things for me.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4041 on: Aug 27, 2016, 06:58:29 AM »
I saw Don't Breathe.

Man, not fun. There's a scene in there that made me seriously uncomfortable. I was not expecting anything like that.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4042 on: Aug 28, 2016, 02:37:05 AM »
Heh, I went and read a synopsis.  Shit, dude, go buy a baby with some of that million bucks.  Reading about the picture, it's going to be #1 over Suicide Squad.  Heh.  With a nice $10 mil budget, it's already in the black, too.  Did anyone see Kubo and the Two Strings?  I guess not since it's tanking.  But the Laika guy's rich anyway so he doesn't care.  Just pump more of that sweet, sweet Nike money into Laika and move on with your next film.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4043 on: Aug 28, 2016, 11:36:42 AM »
Yup! You watch Justified?

You watch Sons of Anarchy where he played a transsexual?  That did things for me.

I saw both.
I've been following Goggins career with interest ever since The Shield

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4044 on: Sep 01, 2016, 12:40:10 AM »
I've been sitting on Dredd for a while now.  I think because I had planned to watch it with my dad but we never got to it so the movie's still in the wrapper.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4045 on: Sep 01, 2016, 04:01:15 AM »
I didn't know your dad had passed. I'm sorry to hear that.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4046 on: Sep 01, 2016, 11:06:16 PM »
Yeah, that'd be reason enough for me to keep it wrapped. But if you do watch it expecting Rob Schneider to pop up in there like he did in Sly's version, I'm happy to say that you'll be disappointed.
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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4047 on: Sep 02, 2016, 02:47:39 AM »
I didn't know your dad had passed. I'm sorry to hear that.

Hey!  Don't kill off my dad, dude!  :o  He's alive but I don't get to see him too often and he's a workaholic so we almost never get to watch movies together.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4048 on: Sep 02, 2016, 03:57:17 AM »
My bad, my bad.

Dredd is fantastic. It's a tragedy hardly anyone showed up for it, the ideas the director had for the sequel sounded amazing.

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Re: The last movie I saw was...
« Reply #4049 on: Sep 03, 2016, 05:20:20 AM »
Kickstarter!









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