wtf

[Pretty Faye]

http://kevxml2a.infospace.com/cp.us/kevxml...date=01/10/2005
goddamn.
love what the defense minister said. damn straight.

[Rodent of Unusual Size]

I've been smoking since age 18. It's my sacred right.

Jesus died for our...smokes?

The "city" closest to me is trying to ban smoking in a similar way.  While it suits the heck out of me for them to ban smoking (I hate the smell of smoke, and for fairness' sake, allowing it is like allowing drunks to piss on your head), I hate that this means that people who own diners or restaurants or nightclubs can't let people light up in their own building.  So much for property rights.  "If you don't like my smoke-filled bar, I don't want you anyway!" should be the rule here.

It's yet another freedom being infringed upon because the movers and shakers in politics (the people with money, specifically the health-care industry) have a beef with it (because of the money spent to care for lung-cancer patients), and people are too dumb to stop killing themselves with nicotine and tar on their own.

[Max Con]

You should die if you smoke.

[Evil Monkey-Tom]

You die anyways, but lil kids and waitresses shouldn't be killed too.

[Max Con]

Yes they should.

[ChelseySuzie]

Too bad a lot of waitresses already smoke, mainly because we have to deal with people like you.

[Evil Monkey-Tom]

It's so you degenerate to the point where you work at a place called 'Shakeys'.

[Faye Valentine]

:smokes in the board:

[The D]

:smokes in the board:

FIRE!

*sprays Faye with a fire extinguisher*

[Evil Monkey-Tom]

*releases Halon, which is fatal*

x.x

[B E C K]

That is stupid.  I like a cigarette every once in a while, and it sucks that there's nearly no where to go to enjoy a cigarette.   It's already pretty much banned here, and starting the Fall semester, my school will have banned it from campus as well.  =(  And if people don't want to work in a restaurant that allows smoking then they need to find work elsewhere.  There's plenty of it and heaps of people who don't want smoke around while they eat, including some smokers.  Whining about waitresses being killed is dramatic and ridiculous.  A country-wide ban is ghey.  Fuck Italy.

[Extra Zero]

I think South Park's opinion of smoking and the tobacco industry was highly valid.  Hey fun fact,  you know who else banned smoking?  Nazi Germany.  I don't smoke, but I think people have the fucking right to--and it's a hell of alot safer than getting sloshed daily or being around drunks themselves.

[Bernie AKA]

Besides, the smoking section is the only place in some restaurants where one won't be seated next to a herd of crotchgoblins.  i'd rather catch an occasional whiff of smoke than have my ears shattered by hypersonic shrieks - no one encourages the smoker to keep going because it's "Sooooo cuuuuuute".   :angry:

Mind you, I'm not referring to normal kids with good parents who teach them how to act in public - they're a pleasure to be around.  But smoking sections are pretty much the last line of defense against the others.

[Evil Monkey-Tom]

God, I wanna smack those kids. My brother and I would be beat if we acted up in a restaurant.

[Me, Faye]

That is stupid.  I like a cigarette every once in a while, and it sucks that there's nearly no where to go to enjoy a cigarette.   It's already pretty much banned here, and starting the Fall semester, my school will have banned it from campus as well.  =(  And if people don't want to work in a restaurant that allows smoking then they need to find work elsewhere.  There's plenty of it and heaps of people who don't want smoke around while they eat, including some smokers.  Whining about waitresses being killed is dramatic and ridiculous.  A country-wide ban is ghey.  Fuck Italy.

word!
At least you don't live in fucking new york, u cant even smoke in clubs there anymore! thanks god thats not happening in philly any time soon!

[Evil Monkey-Tom]

That is stupid.  I like a cigarette every once in a while, and it sucks that there's nearly no where to go to enjoy a cigarette.   It's already pretty much banned here, and starting the Fall semester, my school will have banned it from campus as well.  =(  And if people don't want to work in a restaurant that allows smoking then they need to find work elsewhere.  There's plenty of it and heaps of people who don't want smoke around while they eat, including some smokers.  Whining about waitresses being killed is dramatic and ridiculous.  A country-wide ban is ghey.  Fuck Italy.

word!
At least you don't live in fucking new york, u cant even smoke in clubs there anymore! thanks god thats not happening in philly any time soon!

See, bars and clubs is kinda stupid. But then I think cigs are just evil anyways.

LEGALIZE WEED!!!

[Bernie AKA]

Eddie smokes a pipe or the occasional cigar.  All of the tobacco he gets is mild; not anything clovish or harsh.  He smokes on Saturdays at the pub we go to and that's about it, but be damned if a new city council member who wants her fugly mug on the news hasn't started some No Smoking Anywhere shit here.

How about some common sense instead?  Say the smoking section must be X feet away from non-smoking and have ventilation requirements - if the restaurant can't do that, sorry, no smoking - but leave bars/clubs and pubs the fuck alone!  :angry:  If you don't want to be around smoke, DON'T GO TO A BAR!

[Rodent of Unusual Size]

Besides, the smoking section is the only place in some restaurants where one won't be seated next to a herd of crotchgoblins.  i'd rather catch an occasional whiff of smoke than have my ears shattered by hypersonic shrieks - no one encourages the smoker to keep going because it's "Sooooo cuuuuuute".   :angry:

Mind you, I'm not referring to normal kids with good parents who teach them how to act in public - they're a pleasure to be around.  But smoking sections are pretty much the last line of defense against the others.

I never thought about it like that, but you're quite right.  Kid makes noise, you blow smoke in their direction and take profane pleasure in making them miserable.

You'd be amazed at how much good behavior is unexpected and welcomed.  I've been complemented at least twice in the past for "my well-mannered children".  Which is funny, in that they weren't mine...it happened when my nephews and I stopped for something decent to eat while we were on the way to see Spiderman 2 and RotK.  You'd be amazed at how appreciative people are to see you say grace before partaking in Ryan's buffet.

[Bernie AKA]

Kid makes noise, you blow smoke in their direction and take profane pleasure in making them miserable.

I was thinking more along the lines of presuming at least one parent/handler had the odd brain cell squeaking against another enough to result in the epiphany that would inspire them not to sit amidst smoke with a small, still-developing human for which they have responsibility, but by all means, do whatever works for you.

And I've also enjoyed compliments on my nephew's behavior - great feeling.  We're apparently both fortunate enough to have siblings who take their life choices to heart.

[MegatronYES]

ha anybody ever seen the episode of Bullshit about smoking bans?

[Faye Valentine]

How about some common sense instead?  Say the smoking section must be X feet away from non-smoking and have ventilation requirements - if the restaurant can't do that, sorry, no smoking - but leave bars/clubs and pubs the fuck alone!  :angry:  If you don't want to be around smoke, DON'T GO TO A BAR!

word! fuck italy, bunch of pansies
:burns her italian passport:

[B E C K]

ha anybody ever seen the episode of Bullshit about smoking bans?

No, but I do remember it brought in a smoking discussion over at Shwiggie's board.