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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #90 on: Feb 08, 2012, 09:00:05 PM »
Dunno.

I never did
Its even in the thread you said you did it so that i wouldnt go back and do it.  It was completely unjustified znd is the sole reason i oppress women and minorities.

Oh, okay, preventive measure then.  Like a condom.

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #91 on: Feb 10, 2012, 10:30:00 PM »
Then let me edit again! I want to make broad sweeping nonsensical statements and then quickly retract them.

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #92 on: Feb 12, 2012, 02:15:49 AM »
Awwwwww, Ron Paul still lost Maine to Flip-Flopper.  Boo hoo.  Give the guy a damn state, everyone else has one.

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #93 on: Feb 12, 2012, 01:21:39 PM »
I won't vote Romney. Ever. Under any circumstances. I don't care that he's the perfunctory nominee.
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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #94 on: Feb 13, 2012, 01:33:22 AM »
Will you do a write-in or vote for a possible third-party dude?

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #95 on: Feb 13, 2012, 03:24:47 PM »
I might vote bama or write in ronny p.
im one of the swing voters that theyre all trying really hard to win over

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #96 on: Feb 13, 2012, 03:27:16 PM »
Ah democracy, I still remember when I used to live in one

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #97 on: Feb 13, 2012, 10:02:21 PM »
Will you do a write-in or vote for a possible third-party dude?
Last time I voted for Bob Barr, but I won't vote either way if it's between Obama and Romney.

Third party are either protest or feel-good votes that are ultimately useless. And write-ins are basically the same as a no-vote, so why bother with typing my dog's name on the touch screen?
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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #98 on: Feb 14, 2012, 12:24:29 AM »
Because every time you vote for your dog as president an angel gets its wings.

I might vote bama or write in ronny p.
im one of the swing voters that theyre all trying really hard to win over

So am I.  I really wanted some good Repub candidates this year.  But no one even remotely sways me other than Ron Paul.  Anyone else and Obama, I'd rather throw my lot with Obama because everyone else scares the shit outta me.  I was actually swing in the last election as well but then McCain chose Sarah Palin and there was no way I was gonna let that bat-crazy mama grizzly near the White House.  Even if she is kinda hot.

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #99 on: Feb 14, 2012, 02:22:52 PM »
Get a little closer let it fold
Cut open my sternum and pull
My little ribs around you

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #100 on: Feb 14, 2012, 08:23:29 PM »
I've had it with the neocons. It's another name for hawkish right-leaning moderates. I see little difference between them and moonbat Democrats...they might as well rename the GOP the Not As Much Party.

But that 99% stuff is 99% nonsense. Part V is the only thing they should be bothering with...which, oddly enough, is almost exactly what the TEA Party groups did in the previous election.
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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #101 on: Feb 15, 2012, 04:32:09 AM »
I like some of that stuff
What particularly do u not like?

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #102 on: Feb 15, 2012, 03:10:18 PM »
There are several things in there that sound good to me. Most of it.
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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #103 on: Feb 15, 2012, 10:42:31 PM »
I like some of that stuff
What particularly do u not like?

You asked for it.

The fact that they deign to speak for anything remotely close to 99% of the nation is enough to discount the entire concept. The arrogance is staggering, and the constant reference to "the 99% of the American people" sounds like a bad wrestling promo. But anyway.

1. Elimination of the Corporate State.
For a group concerned with the first amendment from the get-go, they sure do like deciding whose voices should and should not count. If you run, represent, or own shares in a corporation, shut up whilst we redistribute your monies.

2. Overturning the “Citizens United” Case.
See #1. It's also humorous, as it's possibly the only time I've seen leftists decry the "anti-democratic" judiciary. Republicans use super-PACs, Democrats use unions...where's the beef? If you want to see real campaign negativity, look at the Revolution of 1800. If you want to see why it shouldn't be undone, see the first amendment once again.

Plus I'd counter that it was McCain-Feingold that should have been repealed, but that's a knock-down drag-out for another time.

3. Elimination of All Private Benefits to Public Servants.
So, let's say I win a congressional seat and was appointed to the banking and finance committee. Where would I keep my money? I could lose my life insurance policies and my highly hypothetical children could have unfair employment restrictions placed on them (see 14th amendment, equal protection clause). All that sounds far-fetched, but think for a moment...what doesn't the government regulate? It'd be easier if they'd just stop regulating everything. But we can't have that, can we?

4.  Term Limits.
I have no beef with this at all. Now someone find a feather and try knocking everybody down with it.

5.  A Fair Tax Code.
I'm tired of hearing "fair share". Who decides "fair share"? Who decides the "fair share" is fair? The "fair share" might be fairly unfair. But it's fair to the fair people who decide how fair or unfair the "fair share" might fairly be. Notice that this entire paragraph concerns corporate tax, which is already quite high...and they wonder why companies relocate and carry jobs elsewhere? BTW, loopholes will naturally close when the IRS is dismantled and a flat tax is instituted across the board.

6. Health Care for All.
The government can't pay for or even make Medicare work properly for just old people. Not only is current iteration of federal health-care causing havoc with health-care providers (don't get me started on the clustermuck Obamacare is already beginning to cause), one would be foolish to neglect the enormous potential for the abrogation of personal freedom (see the recent contraception issue for a trite example). Like it or lump it: health care is NOT a human right, and it's outside the scope of the Constitution and therefore the federal government.

7. Protection of the Planet.
Great, environmentalist whackos blaming corporations for killing Gaia again. This reads like an excerpt from Gore's movie coupled with doomsday rhetoric. Giving any government agency new, more broad powers is never a good idea, particularly when the one in question sucks so badly using the ones currently at its disposal. Current scientific data is too limited to properly inform responsible law, though that's never stopped Congress before.

8. Debt Reduction.
The only way to reduce government debt is to stop (not reduce) government spending. You could tax everyone 100% and not pay this sucker off for decades. Besides, universal healthcare by itself would be the undoing of this pursuit. Which do they want? It's either/or, not both. Oh, and it's yet another thing blamed on corporations.

9. Jobs for All Americans.
Government never made a job in its entire history because whatever it has to pay workers is first taken from them. Only business produces jobs, and we're already effectively running them out of the country (see previous answers). Besides, we already have jobs training programs in place...they're called "high schools". But they've been dumbed down so severely that a high school diploma's worth is only that its required to get into college. And beyond that are the numerous programs (many private, many state-level) that get people college-level job training. But where would the federal gov't get the money to fund this? Corporations again?

10. Student Loan Debt Refinancing.
If high schools weren't so decrepit the need for an expensive college education would be reduced. But no one was forced to go to college...I've still got $1500 left on my first foray's loan debt, but that sucker is getting paid with no help from anyone else. I also disagree with the notion that education is the answer...hard work and guts is the answer.

11. Ending Perpetual War for Profit.
Tell me where the profit is? All I see is cost. It's a misnomer. However, I agree with closing WWII era bases overseas when sea-bases are far more economical and flexible, as most countries we'd be concerned with are 120 miles from some sort of coast. Reducing nuclear armament isn't so critical as modernizing it is...the numbers aren't the problem as much as the maintenance of fifty year-old installations and unnecessary submarine second-strike capability dating from the days of MAD.

Where congressional approval is concerned, they have the powet to declare war and manage expenditures, and that's it. The president is, for better or worse, the commander-in-chief. By "pre-text" I presume they mean Iraq, where every intelligence agency in the world was telling us they had and intended to use WMDs until our armed forces went in and found a few but nothing what they were told? Whose fault was it really, particularly when you had "Congressional approval" for that conflict? Blame Bush all you want, but that was a botch for which everyone must share blame...except for those few of us who didn't care what they might have as long as they didn't use them and opposed Iran (Ron Paul, me, and I'm sure a few others).

12. Emergency Reform of Public Education.  
Rewrite that first sentence, "the public government education system in the United States is a resounding failure," and you both have it right and a good start to fixing it. How about we just worry about teaching children how to write, read, and solve general math problems, like we should have been doing the whole time?

13. End Outsourcing and Currency Manipulation.
Another matter of throwing other people's money at the problem rather than addressing the problem, which is directly tied to the value of the dollar, which is directly tied to how much of our tender is borrowed against other currencies. This is what prevents us from starving the Chinese of market muscle and artificial value (re: lending them ours). After all, "the borrower is slave to the lender," per Proverbs 22:7. Also see the inflation tax, as decried by your friend and mine, Representative Ron Paul. Also see my comments on corporate scapegoating throughout this tome.

14. Banking and Securities Reform.
Agreed on Glass-Steagall; disagreed on Volcker, as it is a lesser version of the former. Restore the uptick rule and speculation falls back to reality without further need for new regulation.

15. Foreclosure Moratorium, Mortgage Refinancing and Principle Write Downs.
Government needs to stop any involvement in the mortage loan industry, as it is the cause of much of it by essentially forcing banks to make risky loans through things like the Community Reinvestment Act. Relaxing regulations made it profitable to offer such subprime loans by selling them off to other investors, so banks naturally sought ways to literally hedge their bets. And, as bad as it sounds, the holders of those crappy mortgages must lose their homes until they can afford one...known as "the old fashioned way". Once things get back on the upward track, there'll be plenty of buyers for those foreclosed homes, and the folks who borrowed them (as opposed to owning...no mortgage holder actually owns anything but a debt) will be in a better position to buy later. The national gov't can't go around buying everyone a house.

16. Review and Reform of the Federal Reserve Banking System.
Hah, "bipartisan"...there's no such thing. And there are more than enough commissions and committees in Congress already. The Fed is a bank already; we don't need another central bank to get us into trouble. And another small but important correction: the bubble and bursting thereof is directly attributable to mismanagement of government-subsidized enterprises, poorly-conceived banking instruments and irresponsible laws forcing them to use those instruments.

17. Ending the Electoral College and Enactment of Uniform Federal Election Rules in All of the States.
Nothing wrong with the electoral college. We have more than enough election laws now. And Congress making laws about campaign finance reform was already covered. Popular vote is irrelevant short of the passing of an amendment changing that fact. Gore lost; grow up and get over it.

18. Ending the War in Afghanistan and Care of Veterans.
I agree with the first part with one condition: that Afghanistan be carpet bombed into oblivion immediately after withdrawal. Make all future wars involve this procedure prior to any ground troops being mobilized. Remember, the best means of preventing veteran suicides is to quit creating veterans. I furthermore propose that whatever is left of the nation and its resources be confiscated to pay for the war effort and returning veterans along with their relevant expenses. Since there is no real profit made in these so-called Wars for Profit, they might as well accomplish something.

19. No Censorship of the Internet.
This one's a little late to the game; SOPA/PIPA are dead; we need to worry more about ACTA.

20. Reinstitution of Civil Rights Including the Repeal of the NDAA.
Another area of agreement...I support the rollback of PATRIOT and related policies. But I submit replacing them with intelligence gathering on foreign nationals in and out of the country with a refocused NSA/CIA.

21. Curtailing the Private Prison Industrial Complex.
Heh. "The so-called “War on Drugs” is a war on young people, minorities and the poor who cannot acquire adequate legal representation...." Maybe if they'd quit buying dope they could afford lawyers? I'm not for legalization and the crop of problems that would cause, but shunting them into rehab may not be any better, as it turns it into essentially another form of incarceration. Then there'll need to be more built, which will cause more cost issues. All of a sudden you have the same problem again.
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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #104 on: Feb 21, 2012, 07:16:09 PM »
Does anyone have a prediction on how long Santorum'll last?  As long as it takes this aspirin in between my legs to dissolve?

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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #105 on: Mar 06, 2012, 07:20:08 PM »
Asprin between your legs? Do I even want to know?  :puke:

Nuri should give me back my new thread privileges so I can make a rant about Sanitarium, Limbaugh, and this whole stupid birth control shit. If the Catholic Church would get their heads out of their asses and stop acting like birth control is unnecessary because sex is only for making babies and women are baby factories we wouldn't have this problem.

The funny thing was I saw catholic protesters protesting the whole issue on a busy intersection, and then watched as a multi-car fender bender happened because of the protest distracting people. I should have stayed, I could have enjoyed watching the police shoo the protesters away for illegally protesting without a permit.
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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #106 on: Mar 06, 2012, 09:02:33 PM »
Because holding an aspirin between the knees keeps the legs closed. Derp.

The contraception issue is a red herring on two fronts, but first...$3000/yr. on birth control? Seriously? The health department gives that shit away for free around here, and, hell, rubbers are cheap. Sure, birth control is used for lots of things other than child prevention, but that's under prescription. Still....$3000 per year on birth control divided by $1 for a jimmy hat at the 7/11 is something like fucking 8 times a day. Damn, Limbaugh may have been right! :D Seriously, his reference to her as a slut: yeah, it was over the top, but this chick is a known activist, not exactly an innocent student unfairly waylaid by a national radio personality. I do not sympathize...welcome to politics, sweetums.

I've often said sex is cheap entertainment for scumbags, and keeping it that way is only part of what this is about. The continual turning of the sexual revolution from the sixties becomes a problem with Catholicism, as well as for biblical Christianity and any other religion when the state is essentially demanding that the church deny its tenets and rubber stamp sinful behavior. So much for separation, huh? That's the first purpose of this "debate"...establish government authority over health care, regardless of what stands in its way. Of course, everything can be connected to people's nebulous "well-being"...so where does that authority end?

And, given that this is prime political season, that gets us to that second purpose. It is in the Democrats best interest to polarize women against any Republican candidate. That's how they roll: Repugnicans are out to beat old people out of SSI, middle class out of taxes and mortgages in favor of the 1%™, women out of their vaginas, kids out of their school lunches, hispanics out of the country, and, last but not least, just simply beat on black people. And Republicans are such political amateurs that they don't know how to counter effectively...the most effective means being to straight up say, "you guys are idiots, and here's why," and then doing so.

But I don't blame Democrats for that; it's just good politics. The fact that the public should be smart enough to recognize this but is gullible enough to fall for it every time is what gripes the hell out of me. And the fact that you, yourself, can't abide people having other opinions, such as Catholicism opposing contraception (which I personally have no problem with) is symbolic of the problem this country has at large. That problem being: the uncontrolled impetus to want government to attend to everything in a supposed "fair" manner that intrudes on basic constitutional rights in favor of manufactured "rights" that have been relatively recently coined, such as the "right" to free health care.

Finally, with regard to your Catholic protesters, I guarantee that they were far less difficult to deal with than the Occupy douche bags all last year. Unfortunately, with the balkanization of the former melting pot becoming ever more pronounced, I see it becoming necessary in the very near future to fight fire with fire.
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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #107 on: Apr 07, 2012, 07:53:13 PM »
Could be worse.
This is how politics work in my country:


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Re: De GOP (it's fukkin politics)
« Reply #108 on: Apr 26, 2012, 10:21:10 PM »
Your country's politics are shopwiki.com?  That's terrible!


















































Nah, I saw the pic before that happened.  Anyway, for uzzz Ameri-cans, is Mittens the GOP nominee or what?  I stopped keeping track of everything since, like, *looks a previous post date* Feb 21.  I got that Pantorum dropped.  And I was shocked with the rest of the nation... or whatever.