Author Topic: WB to reboot movie Batman...AGAIN. (Read 5479 times)

Rama · « **on:** Mar 30, 2011, 01:37:37 AM »

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=30558

Uh...why?

IDE · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 02:55:58 AM »

I think they might have a semi solid argument about this super realistic gritty take on batman not fitting into their justice league-verse. But does it mean they have to reboot? I don't know, couldn't they just have bale adjust or would that be too jarring for the audience?

jonhammstein · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 02:59:00 AM »

Maybe three is enough for Bale, and the WB has learned its lesson about juggling different actors in a single continuity.

So rather than replace Bale, they can just start over with someone else.

Also, this allows them to bring back the Joker without seeming callous.

Of course the best outcome would be if this new reboot failed miserably and they let the franchise lay fallow for a decade.

blanktoe · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 05:47:35 AM »

Why even bother making the third one then?

Rama · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 11:55:31 AM »

Quote from: joerammstein on Mar 30, 2011, 02:59:00 AM

Also, this allows them to bring back the Joker without seeming callous.

This is an argument I can at least get behind, although I think it'd be hard to top Ledger's with it so fresh in everyone's mind. They can also do Two-Face again by not killing him 20 mins after he is "born". That was the biggest waste of those movies.

Rodent of Unusual Size · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 12:31:28 PM »

Particularly in that Two-Face is second only to the Joker among Batman's rogue's. And my brother might argue you down over that one.

Fiero · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 03:32:31 PM »

"looks at comic books constantly reinventing and retconning"

Why is this that surprising?

Quote from: Rodent of Unusual Size on Mar 30, 2011, 12:31:28 PM

Particularly in that Two-Face is second only to the Joker among Batman's rogue's. And my brother might argue you down over that one.

Ha! I guess. Ra's A Ghoul, the Riddler, and Bane all higher.

But second in what exactly? If you rating who's the most unpredictable, I'd stick with Two-Face as second.

jonhammstein · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 07:24:38 PM »

Bane was a one-off. How often does Bane show up to piss off Batman these days? Never. Technically, he's not even really a villain anymore.

Penguin rates higher than Bane as a Batman nemesis, and Penguin is shit.

"But Bane broke Batman's back!"

Yes, and Batman has been dealing with the consequences ever sin...

Oh wait, no he hasn't.

jonhammstein · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 08:02:02 PM »

Whoops! How silly, I forgot about Darkseid! Darkseid actually managed to kill Batman, therefore he is Batman's greatest villain.

Far greater than Joker, at the very least.

He said, tongue firmly in cheek.

Fiero · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 08:14:18 PM »

He didn't kill anyone, he sent him backwards in time .. oh wait, yeah, okay.

I guess I just really like Bane. In fact, I think Catman made it back to fight with Batman before Bane did (Secret Six is awesome, btw).

jonhammstein · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 08:17:04 PM »

I loved Secret Six with all my heart.

And then Calafiore started drawing.

The End.

Fiero · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 09:07:56 PM »

Quote from: joerammstein on Mar 30, 2011, 08:17:04 PM

I loved Secret Six with all my heart.

And then Calafiore started drawing.

The End.

What issue was that? The art still looks good to me, but I'm behind.

jonhammstein · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 09:53:14 PM »

Man, I can't even remember. They got someone else for a bit, and things were looking up again, but then he came back. And as far as I know, he's been drawing for the last year or more.

My hate for his art is probably a little irrational, but I can't stand his weird, jagged-looking people. I've disliked him ever since his run on Exiles, which was quite a while ago. It doesn't matter how much I like a book, as soon as Calafiore's pencils turn up, I am outta there.

Which is unfortunate, because Simone's writing is typically pretty damn good.

Extra Zero · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 10:02:01 PM »

My biggest problem with these superhero movies is that they're going about it the wrong way. They're going to cannibalize their own business with all of these origin movie --> sequel --> sequel ---> reboot movies. The whole "setting up for the Avengers" or "Justice League" is a novel idea, but in the end, it's just another fucking origin movie that's going to be 60% set-up. They really should take a page from James Bond, since we already KNOW the fucking stories behind these characters and just do soft-reboots from time to time that just involve the hero and a conflict.

Rodent of Unusual Size · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 10:08:29 PM »

Quote from: Fiero on Mar 30, 2011, 03:32:31 PM

Ha! I guess. Ra's A Ghoul, the Riddler, and Bane all higher.

Bane was a one-trick pony...he served as Batman's Doomsday, and now that role is over. Riddler was never nothing more than an annoyance, at best a second-tier opponent. While Ra's is a quality enemy, one of the best, even, he's a different class of criminal to me. I have a hard time really seeing him as a member of Batman's rogue's gallery as much as a force to be reckoned with. To me, Ra's al-Ghul is essentially what Batman would have been like without the likes of Leslie Thompkins, Alfred Pennyworth, and Harvey Harris.

Quote from: Fiero on Mar 30, 2011, 03:32:31 PM

But second in what exactly? If you rating who's the most unpredictable, I'd stick with Two-Face as second.

As to second in what, I mean in general rank. As for most unpredictable, Two-Face is the single most predictable of Batman's adversaries. Everything is logically planned out and incorporate duality (or, in the more jejune stories of the past, the number two) of some kind. The trick is connecting the dots, and then foiling him.

Fiero · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 10:17:34 PM »

Quote from: Fiero on Mar 30, 2011, 03:32:31 PM

But second in what exactly? If you rating who's the most unpredictable, I'd stick with Two-Face as second.

As to second in what, I mean in general rank. As for most unpredictable, Two-Face is the single most predictable of Batman's adversaries. Everything is logically planned out and incorporate duality (or, in the more jejune stories of the past, the number two) of some kind. The trick is connecting the dots, and then foiling him.
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But he has that coin thing.

Alright, let's step back. I'm not really that much a Batman fan to know all this. Why am I bothering?

B E C K · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 30, 2011, 11:57:37 PM »

Nuri's Creaming Fantasy:

They make Batman a feature character in the Superman sequel for a World's Finest Team Up. FUCK YEAH.

Forget the origin shit. Zero's right, that crap's nothing but foreplay. Let's start teaming people up now. Put Batman in the Superman sequel, then you can leave him out or give him a cameo in the third Superman as Bats/Bruce sets up crap for him and Superman the form the Justice League, which then becomes a Justice League movie. Also... MAKE A WONDER WOMAN MOVIE ALREADY, FUCKERS.

This is all.

blanktoe · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 06:54:18 PM »

They could solve all of this shit by just making animated movies. I mean half of these movies are special effects anyway. I think everyone will agree that superheroes look like shit in real life but CGI they look amazing. Imagine this in CG

jonhammstein · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 06:58:55 PM »

But... Alex Ross draws from live models.

You just wish bodybuilders could act.

blanktoe · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 07:21:16 PM »

true dat.

Rodent of Unusual Size · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 31, 2011, 11:29:49 PM »

They don't have to if wormy ACK-TORS wear motion capture suits and get Gollumed onto the screen.

Rama · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 01, 2011, 11:46:15 AM »

Quote from: B E C K on Mar 30, 2011, 11:57:37 PM

Nuri's Creaming Fantasy:

They make Batman a feature character in the Superman sequel for a World's Finest Team Up. FUCK YEAH.

Forget the origin shit. Zero's right, that crap's nothing but foreplay. Let's start teaming people up now. Put Batman in the Superman sequel, then you can leave him out or give him a cameo in the third Superman as Bats/Bruce.

Then Clark and Bruce can start making out!

Wait...what?

IDE · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 01, 2011, 01:25:10 PM »

Or just cast me as hawkeye.

Faye Valentine · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 17, 2011, 09:19:38 AM »

Will Smith is the next Batman. His son will play Robin and his daughter will be the Joker

Fiero · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 17, 2011, 11:27:09 AM »

Quote from: Faye Valentine on Apr 17, 2011, 09:19:38 AM

Will Smith is the next Batman. His son will play Robin and his daughter will be the Joker

The sad thing is, I could see this happening. And in a really weird turn of events, Jada will be Harley.

blanktoe · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 17, 2011, 03:03:13 PM »

better yet ten years from now Jaden Smith is Terry McGuiness in Batman Beyond the movie.

jonhammstein · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 17, 2011, 04:39:54 PM »

I don't understand all this Will Smith jargon. Did he make an announcement about something recently, or are we just still riffing on Karate Kid and I Whip My Hair Back and Forth?

blanktoe · « **Reply #27 on:** Apr 17, 2011, 05:50:43 PM »

Faye likes bad movies and Will Smith.

Fiero · « **Reply #28 on:** Apr 18, 2011, 12:09:07 AM »

Quote from: joerammstein on Apr 17, 2011, 04:39:54 PM

I don't understand all this Will Smith jargon. Did he make an announcement about something recently, or are we just still riffing on Karate Kid and I Whip My Hair Back and Forth?

Yep.

blanktoe · « **Reply #29 on:** Apr 18, 2011, 12:23:36 AM »

Will and his son are making a movie with M. Night.