Author Topic: Deathly Hallows spoilers allegedly leaked. (Read 14920 times)

Rama · « **Reply #30 on:** Jul 25, 2007, 08:04:31 AM »

Quote from: B E C K link=topic=1424.msg47833#msg47833

Do you guys think that when the final movie comes about that they'll cast people to play the characters for the flashforward scene or will they just age them with make-up and shit?

I think they'll be the same actors. Most will be in their 20s at that point. By the time this movie gets made, I think it'll be harder to convince people that Harry is 17, then it will be to convince them he is 36.

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Does anyone else get confused with how she writes dialogue? She'll write like this:

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"What is your decision?" asked Lupin.
Harry walked over to his friends.
"I'm not going back to Hogwarts."

And that last line of dialogue is suppose to be Harry's. I'm used to doing this:

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"What is your decision?" asked Lupin.
Harry walked over to his friends. "I'm not going back to Hogwarts."

Once you get used to it, it's not so bad but are both forms acceptable? The way I write, if the first snippet was mine then that last line of dialogue would've been Lupin's, not Harry's.

Yeah, I noticed that too. It does make it confusing.

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I hear all the time that's she so very descriptive. Does anyone agree with that assessment because I find her kind of vague on a lot of things. Not that I want to get bogged down with overdescription, it just feels like she's as descriptive as any other decent writer would be-- not any more of less.

I don't think she is descriptive at all. Like the above example. I would have wrote it like this:

"What is your decision?" asked Lupin.
Harry looked up at his one time teacher and mentor. His face started to show his inner doubt as he looked into the the man's pleading eyes, but slowly a new cold and hard detrimation came over him as he made up his mind. He turned away unable to see the disappointment in Lupin's face as he delievered the decsion.
"I'm not going back to Hogwarts."

But that's just how I roll. Course if I had wrote it I wouldn't have spent most of the 2nd act hanging out in a tent.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #31 on:** Jul 25, 2007, 08:22:41 AM »

We're not the only ones to wonder at her writing style. There's some ongoing confusion as to who had the tears in his eyes when Snape cast his Patronus spell in front of Dumbledore due to the phrasing - don't have the book at work, but it's in the "Prince's Tale" chapter.

I'm wondering if the movies have influenced her dialogue writing a bit. If the scene & line stays in the DH movie, I can so hear Maggie Smith saying, "We teachers are rather good at magic, you know."

Rama · « **Reply #32 on:** Jul 25, 2007, 04:05:52 PM »

Her action, at least in this one, is a little confusing. I think she was trying to go for the "Oh some much is going on! What's happening!" kinda thing, but it just comes out as "uh...how the hell did that happen." And she also uses the same "Everything went black" to describe when Harry is knocked out, and when they Transport themselves someplaces else (I forget the exact term they use in the books.) and since both are usually done while they are under attack it leads to some confusion on which exactly happened, until it's established which did happen.

B E C K · « **Reply #33 on:** Jul 26, 2007, 02:31:18 PM »

Quote from: Rama on Jul 25, 2007, 08:04:31 AM

I think they'll be the same actors. Most will be in their 20s at that point. By the time this movie gets made, I think it'll be harder to convince people that Harry is 17, then it will be to convince them he is 36.

That's what I was thinking. Merla thinks they'll cast older actors, but all Radcliffe needs is a little beard action and he's almost good to go.

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Yeah, I noticed that too. It does make it confusing.

Cool, I'm glad I'm not the only one. It bothers the crap out of me sometimes. Like I said before, I was able to get used to it but still... meh.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #34 on:** Jul 26, 2007, 03:42:17 PM »

Rumors are right - JKR is going to do an encyclopedia from all her notes - good.

So funny - she's getting all cheesed about people calling Snape the hero of the story. Instead of being happy that she's created a memorable character, she's going on about him being fun to write, but that he was a horrible person, not heroic at all. Ahem... Jo dear, what you created is a Byronic hero:

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The Byronic hero has the following characteristics:

conflicting emotions, bipolar tendencies, or moodiness
self-critical and introspective
struggles with integrity
a distaste for social institutions and social norms
being an exile, an outcast, or an outlaw
a lack of respect for rank and privilege
a troubled past
being cynical, demanding, and/or arrogant
often self-destructive
troubles with sexual identity
loner, often rejected from society

none of which precludes one from rising to the occasion. You're wealthier than the Queen - quit fretting about who readers like and be content.

B E C K · « **Reply #35 on:** Jul 26, 2007, 04:06:56 PM »

Is she really getting cheesed? That's hilarious. Snape's the one that made the ultimate sacrifice (as stoopid as I think it sorta was). Harry went on to "Happily Ever After", I don't see what's so heroic about that above Snape.

Rama · « **Reply #36 on:** Jul 27, 2007, 07:17:01 AM »

And he hid out most of the finally battle. People where fighting all around him and he stayed under his cloak till the last possible moment. Not very heroic if you ask me.

blanktoe · « **Reply #37 on:** Jul 27, 2007, 08:21:58 AM »

So,uh, what happens to the Asian girl with the Irish accent?

The D · « **Reply #38 on:** Jul 27, 2007, 10:30:20 AM »

Harry potter finally takes the "Plunge" and ends up getting her pregnant.

B E C K · « **Reply #39 on:** Jul 27, 2007, 11:57:01 AM »

Quote from: rodimustoe on Jul 27, 2007, 08:21:58 AM

So,uh, what happens to the Asian girl with the Irish accent?

She hangs around remaining woefully underused.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #40 on:** Jul 27, 2007, 11:57:58 AM »

Last I know she ended up with some non-entity that Ginny had dumped named Michael Corner. Poor girl - "Cho Chang" sounds like a cash register and "Cho Corner" sounds like a restaurant.

B E C K · « **Reply #41 on:** Jul 27, 2007, 12:07:18 PM »

Cho Chang Corner sounds either like a prostitute hangout or a sandwich/convenience store combination.

The D · « **Reply #42 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 01:13:50 PM »

Quote from: Bernie AKA on Jul 26, 2007, 03:42:17 PM

Rumors are right - JKR is going to do an encyclopedia from all her notes - good.

So funny - she's getting all cheesed about people calling Snape the hero of the story. Instead of being happy that she's created a memorable character, she's going on about him being fun to write, but that he was a horrible person, not heroic at all. Ahem... Jo dear, what you created is a Byronic hero:

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The Byronic hero has the following characteristics:

conflicting emotions, bipolar tendencies, or moodiness
self-critical and introspective
struggles with integrity
a distaste for social institutions and social norms
being an exile, an outcast, or an outlaw
a lack of respect for rank and privilege
a troubled past
being cynical, demanding, and/or arrogant
often self-destructive
troubles with sexual identity
loner, often rejected from society

none of which precludes one from rising to the occasion. You're wealthier than the Queen - quit fretting about who readers like and be content.

That kinda sounds like the kind of hero I'm trying to create for my book series. Introspective, kinda quick to anger, a bit moody, mostly a loner, troubled childhood, cynical, outcast, distaste for pop culture, wears lots of black, hates authority, and has no problem killing anyone who gets in his way.

I wonder if I can pull that character off right.

IDE · « **Reply #43 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 05:13:59 PM »

[youtube=425,350]BTkEka1tk4c[/youtube]

B E C K · « **Reply #44 on:** Aug 07, 2007, 05:19:18 PM »

Well I know which tag I'll need to add next. That is if I wanted to add it. Just do a link. Is this the one where you do your "Blair Witch" spoilers?

IDE · « **Reply #45 on:** Aug 08, 2007, 01:13:22 AM »

Yep, the very same.

At least merla thought it was funny...

http://bonr.shwiggie.com/index.php?topic=4191.msg97514#msg97514

B E C K · « **Reply #46 on:** Aug 08, 2007, 01:41:47 AM »

If I had seen a jaw drop in horror or something I would've laughed, too. You were missing the money shot. Maybe you should have someone animate a sequence to the audio of that clip.

The D · « **Reply #47 on:** Aug 08, 2007, 11:55:58 AM »

Hmm.....
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Harry+Potter+spoiler
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Harry+Potter+Spoilers

IDE fails at spoilers.

Oh, and another thing, I roffle at those HP fans who try to hurt the spoilerer. Spoiling is not illegal, but assault is. For all those HP fans who attacked the spoilers (like the fag who maced the one spoilerer....

ENJOY YOUR PRISON RAPE, FAGS!

"Noooooo, you bitch! You bitch!"

Obviously many of these spoilers are fake. I heard one that said Ron was dead, and then that Ron marries Hermione and has kids with her. Correct me if I'm wrong, but how does a corpse have children?

How was the book ending? Predictable?

Rama · « **Reply #48 on:** Aug 09, 2007, 12:58:26 AM »

Well I can tell you one of those two spoilers is true...

Merla · « **Reply #49 on:** Aug 09, 2007, 10:57:59 AM »

Quote from: IDE on Aug 08, 2007, 01:13:22 AM

Yep, the very same.

At least merla thought it was funny...

http://bonr.shwiggie.com/index.php?topic=4191.msg97514#msg97514

Actually I thought the act was rather sad. I was laughing at you, IDE!

B E C K · « **Reply #50 on:** Aug 09, 2007, 02:41:47 PM »

I have the feeling he doesn't really distinguish "laughing at you" and "laughing with you".

Rama · « **Reply #51 on:** Aug 09, 2007, 11:44:06 PM »

Wait...people can laugh "with" you?

B E C K · « **Reply #52 on:** Aug 09, 2007, 11:52:34 PM »

Yeah. Merla does it with me all the time when we laugh at people.

Rama · « **Reply #53 on:** Aug 10, 2007, 12:04:00 AM »

Uncanny!

Wickedly Yours E · « **Reply #54 on:** Aug 10, 2007, 12:34:51 PM »

So I read it all last night.
It was.....solid. Not spectacular, but solid. It was kind of nice to see Harry stop being all angsty and go "FIGHT'S ON, BITCHES."

B E C K · « **Reply #55 on:** Aug 10, 2007, 06:01:13 PM »

Yeah but he was stoopid for saying Voldemort's name when he had already been told it was hexed or whatever.

Rama · « **Reply #56 on:** Aug 11, 2007, 01:00:26 AM »

Indeed.

Wickedly Yours E · « **Reply #57 on:** Aug 12, 2007, 10:49:03 AM »

Oh There was more stupid parts than that.

SPOILERS BITCHES

Wormtail's sudden act of asphyxiating himself. I didn't really get that.
Why Voldemort didn't try setting Harry up with the Mind Viewing like LAST TIME....
Dobby the House Elf kicking ass and taking names and then getting shanked.
Expilliarmus killin' ol' Voldy.

OH and the lack of any really COMPETENT Minions. Seriously.

B E C K · « **Reply #58 on:** Aug 12, 2007, 08:40:15 PM »

Harry spared his life so Wormtail owed him a debt, which I assume has some magical property imbued in it of some kind. Because of Wormtail's hesitation, the hand that Voldemort had given Wormtail turned on him and strangled him.
I don't recall. Someone else needs to get that one. But I know the reason was given somewhere.
Bellatrix got him with the knife while they were apparating out. Unless you mean that you didn't see the point of it. But since I never liked Dobby, I figured his death was the best use of his character yet.
Voldemort's own killing curse whacked him. He used the Elder Wand to cast it when he wasn't the wand's master. Harry was. Because the wand can not attack its own master, it used Voldemort's curse on himself.
Considering how many ppl ended up whacked or tortured, I'd say the minions did their job better than most would've.

Viewing the earlier movies is a little more depressing. Especially Chamber and Azkaban, where I can point to the screen and be all "he dies", "he dies", "he dies".... At one point there were three characters on the screen and I looked up (I watch it when working on stuff sometimes) and sighed, "Goddammit, they all die."

Rama · « **Reply #59 on:** Aug 13, 2007, 04:13:27 PM »

Quote from: B E C K on Aug 12, 2007, 08:40:15 PM

I don't recall. Someone else needs to get that one. But I know the reason was given somewhere.

I thought it had something to do with Dumbledore showing him how to block Voldermorts thoughts out. Even though he didn't do it through most of the book, Voldermort might have assumed that avenue was closed to him and not tried to invade again.