Author Topic: Deathly Hallows spoilers allegedly leaked. (Read 14948 times)

B E C K · « **on:** Jul 17, 2007, 06:28:18 PM »

How archaic! There are no spoilers at that link, but I find it hysterical that someone put a book on a carpet and took pictures with their camera 200-something times.

And from here, interesting if true:

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B E C K · « **Reply #1 on:** Jul 17, 2007, 06:52:12 PM »

How plausible is this? (Third to last post). http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-deathly-hallows/confirmed-rumors-spoilers-46401/

If that's true, that kinda sucks ass.

EDIT: This link's says the exact same thing, but better: http://www.zendurl.com/hallows/

Rama · « **Reply #2 on:** Jul 18, 2007, 02:52:21 AM »

GAH! I read that and I'm already sorry I did.

The D · « **Reply #3 on:** Jul 18, 2007, 01:45:51 PM »

Damn, I was seeing all the signs all over about the release this week of the book, and I was about to come on right now and post something about spoilers and stuff, and I see someone comes out and spoils the book for me, and then you make a thread, saving me all the work of starting my own.

What odd coincidences....

Here's a spoiler for you:

EVERYONE DIES!

Even better spoiler:

HARRY POTTER IS KILLED BY VOLDEMORT, BUT THEN VOLDEMORT DIES WHEN DUMBLEDORE APPEARS ALIVE AND BLOWS HIM TO BITS.

Ok, so every one of these are bullshit. But that's what the spoilers online could be anyway, bullshit as well. I certainly hope so for the link above.

A part of me wants to go driving past every book store at midnight and yell out the ending to the book. Another part of me wants to stay alive, let alone keep my health. And I'm not that big of an asshole.

As everyone already knows, Snape Kills Dumbledore. It was absolutely hilarious when people went around all over the place spoiling the book (especially at 4chan, where moot posted a background sound of the audio version of the spoiler).

I've never read Half-Blood Prince. And now it's spoiled for me. I know that Snape kills Dumbledore. How tragic.

...Ok, so what happens in the rest of the book?

Wow, One page in the entire book is spoiled. I'm scarred for life.

....So what happens on the other 800+ or so pages?

How does it get to the point where Snape does what he does? What happened beforehand? What were Snape's motives? How did Harry, Snape, and Dumbledore get on the tower in the first place? Why didn't Snape kill Harry (no witnesses?).

I've had part of the book ruined, but not the whole book. I have no idea how things progressed from Harry leaving the Dursleys and going to school, and then it ending up in a melee at Hogwarts and then to that showdown.

For me, what's important is the content of the book, not the ending. Sure, it sucks to know the ending, but I only know part of the ending, I don't know the whole picture. And the only way to get that whole picture is to read the entire book.

So I don't let the Dumbledore spoiler bug me. I don't know if these spoilers are correct, I certainly hope not. But if they are, I'm still going to enjoy the book when I read it. Because I'd want to find out WHY it ends like it does, if I know the ending. The ending of any book is only part of the story, what causes that ending to happen is the whole story.

So, go enjoy your book, and watch out for spoilers, and if you accidently get one, don't let it ruin the book for you.

B E C K · « **Reply #4 on:** Jul 18, 2007, 11:39:41 PM »

Quote from: Rama on Jul 18, 2007, 02:52:21 AM

GAH! I read that and I'm already sorry I did.

I am too, but primarily because it looks like it sucks. But I guess no other ending could be expected. If I really don't want spoilers for something, I just don't go online. Not that some douche couldn't go shouting it out for everyone on the street, but avoiding the computer is a good start.

Mischief Unmanagaed. I love that title. There are no spoilers in that article. The part of interest is that Deep Discount DVD mailed out a bunch of books early. Whoops.

Rama · « **Reply #5 on:** Jul 19, 2007, 04:57:58 AM »

Well it can't be worse then Indiana Jones fighting Aliens...which is the rumor going around about the plot for Indy 4.

Looks like I should get use to being let down.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #6 on:** Jul 19, 2007, 08:21:10 AM »

Don't station-surf on the radio, either. I'm trying to get a traffic report on the way in this morning and switch stations just in time to hear "....saw the page scan! The last words EVER in Harry Potter are _________!"

And I thought I was being smart by using Amazon so I don't chance running into a little shitling like a friend did last time who was running up the aisles of the store screaming "DUMBLEDORE DIES!" and laughing.

I have to disagree with Anne Frank this morning. People are mostly assholes at heart.

IDE · « **Reply #7 on:** Jul 19, 2007, 01:59:47 PM »

I have already read the spoilers and spoiled over 100 people on INTERNET (all of you here shall be spared of course).

I'm considering going to the mall on the date of the book release (in full wizard's regalia) and doing some live spoiling.

The D · « **Reply #8 on:** Jul 20, 2007, 12:12:12 PM »

Quote from: IDE on Jul 19, 2007, 01:59:47 PM

I have already read the spoilers and spoiled over 100 people on INTERNET (all of you here shall be spared of course).

I'm considering going to the mall on the date of the book release (in full wizard's regalia) and doing some live spoiling.

I'd warn you about doing that, as you'll probably be beaten to death by angry fans. Even your buffness won't protect you from rabid nerdy HP fangirls. They'll tear your limbs off.

Some Rite Aid in Detroit started selling the books early on accident.

B E C K · « **Reply #9 on:** Jul 20, 2007, 12:22:47 PM »

Quote from: IDE on Jul 19, 2007, 01:59:47 PM

I have already read the spoilers and spoiled over 100 people on INTERNET (all of you here shall be spared of course).

I'm considering going to the mall on the date of the book release (in full wizard's regalia) and doing some live spoiling.

That's really pathetic. The most spoiled people are going to be kids. Not that I like kids or anything, but why don't you just go around tipping old people while you're at it. You should at least do fake spoilers. You get the same reaction from some ppl and you wouldn't actually be spoiling anyone. I just don't see the point in doing something like that other than being weak.

The D · « **Reply #10 on:** Jul 20, 2007, 12:52:25 PM »

I'd do fake spoilers but I've still heard fans say they'll kick the ass of anyone who spoils it, fake or not. You're taking your life into your hands doing that. One on one is one thing, but when you have an army of angry fans... you better know some kung fu.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #11 on:** Jul 20, 2007, 01:39:57 PM »

I concur. Or at least go someplace with metal detectors. People here in Texas shoot each other all the time for a lot less than that.

IDE · « **Reply #12 on:** Jul 20, 2007, 09:47:31 PM »

We decided to do a drive by.

And it's not pathetic...it's high art.

B E C K · « **Reply #13 on:** Jul 21, 2007, 06:41:30 AM »

Yeah, like a Jesus made out of poo. I'm sorry life is so unfulfilling for you that you have such desperate need to ruin other people's weekends.

B E C K · « **Reply #14 on:** Jul 21, 2007, 01:23:26 PM »

Blarg. I sifted through Merla's copy while she stepped away from it.

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I could be off on some things, as I only got to sift and didn't really get to actually read it yet.

B E C K · « **Reply #15 on:** Jul 21, 2007, 01:24:37 PM »

Quote from: Rama on Jul 19, 2007, 04:57:58 AM

Well it can't be worse then Indiana Jones fighting Aliens...which is the rumor going around about the plot for Indy 4.

Looks like I should get use to being let down.

Or the talking dinosaur one that was going around for Jurassic Park 4.

IDE · « **Reply #16 on:** Jul 21, 2007, 04:02:37 PM »

Quote from: B E C K on Jul 21, 2007, 06:41:30 AM

Yeah, like a Jesus made out of poo. I'm sorry life is so unfulfilling for you that you have such desperate need to ruin other people's weekends.

My life has nothing to do with this. Even if a portal to middle earth opened up and I went in and carved out a fiefdom complete with numenorean vassals who hailed me as the true heir of Elros Tar-Minyatur I would still come back and yell out those potter spoilers because the look on that fat chick's face last night was priceless...priceless I say.

Rama · « **Reply #17 on:** Jul 22, 2007, 07:22:19 AM »

Quote from: B E C K on Jul 21, 2007, 01:24:37 PM

Quote from: Rama on Jul 19, 2007, 04:57:58 AM
Well it can't be worse then Indiana Jones fighting Aliens...which is the rumor going around about the plot for Indy 4.

Looks like I should get use to being let down.

Or the talking dinosaur one that was going around for Jurassic Park 4.

Oh I think I just vomited a little.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #18 on:** Jul 22, 2007, 09:58:51 AM »

Started: 1.24 PM yesterday
Finished: 8:47 PM yesterday

Was spot-on right about something quite important I had been theorising since book 5 and to which everyone said, "HA! No way!" or some variation thereof. Maybe too easy for me to guess since I've seen a comparable RL situation played out far too many times; not to say JKR had this in mind when she wrote it, but then again, if I'm correct about something in her life, I think she may have seen it too....

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The grades for the Ultimate Deathly Hallows quiz should be up by Monday - this was a 37-page online quiz at the Leaky Cauldron website, in case anyone else took it.

Rama · « **Reply #19 on:** Jul 23, 2007, 02:30:53 AM »

You know I got this book on Sat and I'm a pretty good click into it and I just realized that none of these books takes place in the present day. In fact if the tombstone Harry visted and the letter he read where right. Deathly Hallows takes place in the year 1997. Cause it looks like Harry was born in 1980. I guess she used the used the year she startred writing it (1990) and went seven years from that point.

Oh and the fact it took her 5 years to finish the first one makes me feel a litte better that I've been working on my first book for 3 and it's still not done.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #20 on:** Jul 23, 2007, 12:37:37 PM »

Some afterthoughts:

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B E C K · « **Reply #21 on:** Jul 23, 2007, 02:25:04 PM »

I started it around sevenish last night when I was able to wrangle Merla's copy not intending to read it all the way through, but then I picked it up again about 9:00 and finished it at 5:00. It moves fairly quickly, but I have to admit all the nonsense happenings in the tent were bogging down the speed of it. I see a lot of the tent crap being cut out of the movie version. It will also be interesting to see exactly how much screen time Radcliffe and the other two will get, seeing as the use of Polyjuice potion runs wild in this one.

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And Radcliffe's legal today. Let the feeding frenzy begin.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #22 on:** Jul 23, 2007, 03:16:04 PM »

*sniff, sniff*
The scent of some really bad Polyjuice fanfics is already starting to waft.

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And Radcliffe's legal today. Let the feeding frenzy begin.

He's become a cutie. Unfortunately, my appreciation of such is immediately short-circuited by the astonishing resemblance to my youngest nephew. $:-\$

Rama · « **Reply #23 on:** Jul 23, 2007, 03:21:51 PM »

I wrapped it up myself today. It does move fast. I got in a car accident Sat afternoon....and and despite filling out Police statments and about 20 calls back forth with the insurance company all weekend while nuring a sore neck and a brusied shoulder, I was still able to get through all 700 plus in like two and half days.

Kinda happy that some of the spoilers I read turned out not to be true, but a lot of them did.

There was a lot of "Going nowhere" in there that could have been cut. That could have easly been a 300 page novel if you took out the stuff that didn't advance the plot and didn't add character devolpment. But she did that most of the other books, so it's kinda a trademark I guess. And it seemed she was trying to shoe horn everyone in from all past books.

The D · « **Reply #24 on:** Jul 23, 2007, 06:19:37 PM »

Quote from: Rama on Jul 23, 2007, 02:30:53 AM

Deathly Hallows takes place in the year 1997. Cause it looks like Harry was born in 1980. I guess she used the used the year she startred writing it (1990) and went seven years from that point.

I read the timeline of Harry Potter on Wikipedia, which states that the books seem to take place during the mid 90s, and that Harry was born around 1980-81. The first book is set in 1990-1991 or so.

Rama · « **Reply #25 on:** Jul 24, 2007, 01:27:15 AM »

The date of death on Harry's parnets grave is Oct. 31st 1981. Harry was suppose to have turned 1 the July before his parents where killed, so he would have been born in July 1980. In Deathly Hallows Harry turned 17. So it must have taken place in 1997, but I think it ends in 1998 though since we go past Christmas while he is still on his quest.

And you know when I started reading this book I assumed the Death Hallows was a place, and I was wrong.

Bernie AKA · « **Reply #26 on:** Jul 24, 2007, 08:09:38 AM »

I screwed the pooch on that as well, Rama. I had speculated that V would confront Harry on October 31 (All Hallows Eve) to be a bitch as that would be the anniversary of his parents' deaths. No Guinness for me for not remembering the 6 Hallows of the Tuatha de Danaan.

Rama · « **Reply #27 on:** Jul 24, 2007, 10:48:54 AM »

The Deathly Hallows on the whole where a let down...

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Bernie AKA · « **Reply #28 on:** Jul 24, 2007, 12:47:02 PM »

I'm hearing rumors that there will be a sort-of 8th book in the form of an encyclopedia/compendium to address all the things that were allegedly going to be covered in book 7 - nothing earth-shaking, but curiosities as well as things that JKR herself said that we would find out; por ejemplo:

What would Dumbledore see in the Mirror of Erised?
What was Dudley's worst memory?
What the heck did James & Lily do for a living?
Why were they so financially well-off?
With Gryffendor representing everything V hated, why no G. horcrux? (Harry doesn't count, he was accidental)
Since the Wand chooses the wizard, can a spell as personalized as a Patronus be cast with a strange wand?

And mine - what was Dumbledore's Patronus?

Not exactly stuff to keep one up at night; just things that make ya go "hmmmm...."

B E C K · « **Reply #29 on:** Jul 24, 2007, 04:15:28 PM »

Quote from: Rama on Jul 23, 2007, 03:21:51 PM

And it seemed she was trying to shoe horn everyone in from all past books.

Yeah, I got that feeling from it as well. I also thought the Hallows was a place, but I think I was influenced by hearing a "spoiler" somewhere that it was the place Harry and Vold would duel. I didn't think I would like the Hallows because one of the first reactions I recall hearing of the book was that the Hallows weren't necessary. While I think she may have gone off on a small tangent here, I actually liked them. They were woven into Dumbledore's past. I just found it incredibly odd that Vold knew nothing about having a Hallow already. I buy that he wouldn't care but that he didn't know? It doesn't seem possible to me.

Q's for everyone:

Do you guys think that when the final movie comes about that they'll cast people to play the characters for the flashforward scene or will they just age them with make-up and shit?
Does anyone else get confused with how she writes dialogue? She'll write like this:

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"What is your decision?" asked Lupin.
Harry walked over to his friends.
"I'm not going back to Hogwarts."

And that last line of dialogue is suppose to be Harry's. I'm used to doing this:

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"What is your decision?" asked Lupin.
Harry walked over to his friends. "I'm not going back to Hogwarts."

Once you get used to it, it's not so bad but are both forms acceptable? The way I write, if the first snippet was mine then that last line of dialogue would've been Lupin's, not Harry's.
I hear all the time that's she so very descriptive. Does anyone agree with that assessment because I find her kind of vague on a lot of things. Not that I want to get bogged down with overdescription, it just feels like she's as descriptive as any other decent writer would be-- not any more of less.

And I forgot to add, I know this is morbid and all but I nearly LOL'd at:

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