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« on: Sep 21, 2004, 10:53:00 PM »
If I have to read one more novel or text book I'm going to scream.


I really really don't know how I'm going to survive this semester. Every damn class I'm taking is expecting me to read a lot of shit.

First, there's my history class. I have to read one chapter in my book between each class, and since the class meets two times that's 2 chapters a week. Add to that I have to finish a small book on Roman life in 2 days. Throw in online articles and the such...

Then, add on to that my Lit class. We read 2-3 short stories every week, plus I have to read a novel every two weeks. We just finished with Huck Finn. We were supposed to read half of that in one week then the other half in another week. Now we have to write an essay about a theme in it.

Not to mention the other classes that have massive textbooks I have to read, 2-3 chapters a week sometimes.


Thing that bugs me is how each and every professor I have expects me to devote time to his class and ONLY his class, and seems to act like I don't have other classes that I have to devote time to as well. What's worse is that whole "for every hour in class you should study 3" bullshit.

Teachers fail to remember most of us hold things like jobs.

College fails in this universe. I expect major reforms in education, or it will collapse on itself.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 21, 2004, 11:11:52 PM »
Yeah, but you have the Internet.  Look shit up.  I don't read half of the stuff I'm suppose to read.  Now that I think about it, I don't read even close to half of the stuff I'm suppose to read.  Gawain and the Green Knight?  Fuck a Gawain, I read a summary instead.  As for history stuff, it's too early to tell how I'm gonna pay for that.  I haven't read anything and I have a test in about a week.  I'm just gonna cram on that, I guess.  Government, I'm suppose to be doing readings, but I just watch some of the video, memorize the study guide questions, and go to the review sessions... I did all right that way for my Summer government class and I have the same guy for the Fall.  So fuck a Huck, read as many summaries and study guides online as you can.  Flip through the Cliffsnotes.  Watch the movie.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 21, 2004, 11:15:24 PM »
Let me give you a list of things I have to do between my mother's days off. Since she doesn't have a regulated work schedule, some of these days off are closer together than others.

History, English - Study and write a 5-page report. Not just on normal, easy high school stuff, either. Right now, I'm comparing ancient India and Tibet. Not just the countries themselves, but the way of life of the two different peoples. To do this, I've had to look up religion and geography. The religion is easy, but you try finding a map of ancient Tibet. Then I have to put it together in a way that shows every little detail of what I've learned, and make it at least five pages.

Math - Two chapters each from my Geometry and Algebra books.

Literature - Mostly reading mythology from the areas I'm studying, which will get harder as the year continues.

I'm going to get a job as soon as I get my LP (you need valid photo ID before you can apply for a job in Kansas). My mom has already made it very clear that she won't lighten my workload when this happens.

So stop your bitching. You have it easy.

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 21, 2004, 11:48:33 PM »
That's why I majored in Art.  

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« Reply #4 on: Sep 21, 2004, 11:50:23 PM »
I had to do more work as an Art major than I do now.  Fuck an Art.

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 21, 2004, 11:54:19 PM »
what classes did you have to take?

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« Reply #6 on: Sep 22, 2004, 12:36:40 AM »
DESIGN I
INTRO GRAPHIC TECH
ART HIST SURVEY I
DRAWING I
DESIGN III
TYPOGRAPHY
3-D MODELING        
DRAWING II
DIGITAL IMAGING I
2-D ANIMATION
HIST OF COMM GRAPHICS
ART HIST SURVEY II  

Don't mean to pull a Crazy with all the caps, but I copied and pasted those from the copy of my "unofficial" transcript.  Project after project, many of them boring.  The biggest pain in the ass of all was trying to get enrolled in the classes.  A lot of times there was only one or two slots for a certain class and they'd fill up like THAT so I'd have to take "filler" so I could qualify for my financial aid.  Bah.  Those aren't all the classes I had to take, those are just the ones I actually did take and get credit for.

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 22, 2004, 03:42:51 AM »
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So stop your bitching. You have it easy.
dude i had to read more shit than that last term. you should be the one to stop bitching. if you dont like it, then drop out of college

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 22, 2004, 08:33:18 AM »
Sometimes I regret never going to college. Then I read diatribes such as these.   :blink:  
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 22, 2004, 09:47:45 AM »
Trust me university is even worse, especially Dutch ones

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 22, 2004, 10:41:28 AM »
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So stop your bitching. You have it easy.
dude i had to read more shit than that last term. you should be the one to stop bitching. if you dont like it, then drop out of college
I'm not in college, stupid. I'm 16, I'm homeschooled.

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 22, 2004, 12:18:35 PM »
fuck my post was meant for doug

and dont call me stupid, you sharmoutah

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« Reply #12 on: Sep 22, 2004, 12:33:20 PM »
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DESIGN I
INTRO GRAPHIC TECH
ART HIST SURVEY I
DRAWING I
DESIGN III
TYPOGRAPHY
3-D MODELING        
DRAWING II
DIGITAL IMAGING I
2-D ANIMATION
HIST OF COMM GRAPHICS
ART HIST SURVEY II  

Don't mean to pull a Crazy with all the caps, but I copied and pasted those from the copy of my "unofficial" transcript.  Project after project, many of them boring.  The biggest pain in the ass of all was trying to get enrolled in the classes.  A lot of times there was only one or two slots for a certain class and they'd fill up like THAT so I'd have to take "filler" so I could qualify for my financial aid.  Bah.  Those aren't all the classes I had to take, those are just the ones I actually did take and get credit for.
I feel your pain. I majored in Graphic Arts for 3 years and hated every minute of it. A few years ago all of the Graphic arts classes I had to take were filled so  broked down and took Painting 1 and never looked back.

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« Reply #13 on: Sep 22, 2004, 04:57:54 PM »
So far I've had it fairly easy.  College feels easier than high school, especially since my classes don't meet everyday.


It's just that they're so loooooooooong...  
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 22, 2004, 05:13:53 PM »
School sucks.  Your point is right about teachers expecting you to only devote time to their class.  It's retarded.  They can't consider you might have to dedicate only 1/5 to 1/7 of your time to their class?  Bah!

I assume the pottential for being overworked exists in essentially every program.  Did computer engineering and it was just insane.  You essentially forsake all free times.  At times it got to the point where if I was not at school until it was time to sleep I was at home doing homework.  Bah.  Then you get a break and don't know what to do with yourself because you forget what it was like.
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« Reply #15 on: Sep 22, 2004, 05:53:28 PM »
omg TDEC is the worse. poor engineers.

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« Reply #16 on: Sep 22, 2004, 06:03:03 PM »
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School sucks.  Your point is right about teachers expecting you to only devote time to their class.  It's retarded.  They can't consider you might have to dedicate only 1/5 to 1/7 of your time to their class?  Bah!

I assume the pottential for being overworked exists in essentially every program.  Did computer engineering and it was just insane.  You essentially forsake all free times.  At times it got to the point where if I was not at school until it was time to sleep I was at home doing homework.  Bah.  Then you get a break and don't know what to do with yourself because you forget what it was like.
I have a crazy ass teacher, expecting us basically to read a 20 + article a week... not to mention normal readings, with over 20 pages of various written texts. Then a second who picked the most varienced of all medieval reading (6 books from the 12th century). Then the crazy welshmen, who fills up my time with notes, then has a 7 page paper due on Alexander the great and various pop quizzes...

then the easiest course, a freshmen level human bio class, which is kinda easy... but then my hardest fuckin class, a Human Bio lab, which is like dropping in the middle of HS bio... when she expects you know every fucking thing about it, but the teacher doesnt teach that!

"Today we will be using microscopes to examine cells and work out thier tonicity."

Class: "o.o what the fuck is tonicity?"

"You mean you haven't done this in class?"

Class: "No, she was teaching us about smoking."

"Well, you're just going to have to read your book more."

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« Reply #17 on: Sep 22, 2004, 09:38:15 PM »
It depends on the classes. Most computer classes I don't even bother studying that much. But all these classes are general study and they all suck. History is the only one that doesn't suck as much.


It's not that all this reading is hard, sure, writing essays is much harder than this, but it's that it takes a long ass time. There is a LOT of reading and I don't seem to have much time to do it.

For some things I can probably skim the book.

Today I was typing my essay for History, and all of a sudden, one of my classmates told me that we had a test today in Speech. Which was fucking insane, because we had a test last class. So I had to stop typing to skim the chapters the test was on, and I passed...barely. The summaries at the end of each chapter helped.

But for some other things I have to read a lot. For this History paper, I cannot get any info off the web, I have to get all my info out of ONE book, so I have to read that book. As for the essay that's due next week on Huck Finn, I don't know if reading Sparknotes is actually going to make it easier. It might, and then again, I might get an F. So I might as well just read (or at least speedread) the novel.

As well, the teacher wants us to start reading Of Mice and Men, and read it in a week or so, and then write an essay on THAT.

So it's tons of reading that i don't have a lot of time to do (with a job), and quite a few essays and speeches I have to write, and it's only the beginning of the semester, so I'm SURE it's going to get much more tough come October and November.
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 22, 2004, 09:55:56 PM »
So why not got study instead of pissing about it? I know I complained about my workload, but I get my work done before coming online.

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« Reply #19 on: Sep 22, 2004, 11:38:03 PM »
Oh, I study. But I am allowed to bitch, there are professors who think they can just make students read books without teaching anything. My World Civ is like that, and the second one is focused more on other books which are required for later instead of discussing books that we are doing now, and will be tested on.

I am just pissed about the lab, since FIU makes the students do it. >.<
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 23, 2004, 12:51:05 AM »
I think I did good on the government test.  Thank goodness the guy takes nearly everything word for word from the study guide.  History is definetely gonna be a wing.  I just hate studying.  The good thing about being in actual classes is that if they actually do their job and teach and aren't hideously boring about it, I usually absorb it like a sponge.  Except now three of my classes are distance classes, so I'm suppose to teach myself....  =\


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« Reply #21 on: Sep 23, 2004, 11:02:16 AM »
Well whatever >.<
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« Reply #22 on: Sep 23, 2004, 11:20:11 AM »
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Well whatever >.<
ha! you did the same shit i did!
at least i had a good excuse: it was 5am and i was drunk

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« Reply #23 on: Sep 23, 2004, 12:35:47 PM »
Though not nearly as bad as a college load, I don't get out of the ordeal completely.  October 7- 9 I'm in 8-hour classes for the Commercial Property & Casualty institute of my Certified Insurance Counselor designation (last part of 5! :D ) and have to pass a 20-page essay test on Saturday.  I can't describe how incredibly mind-numbingly boring this will be.  No recording devices allowed.  And since Commercial isn't my forte' I HAVE to pay attention every moment during class.   My butt is going to sleep just thinking about it.  :(  
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 23, 2004, 11:16:02 PM »
DOUG!  I've read Huck Finn and Of Mice and Men... though they were a couple years ago, I could probably still help out.
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« Reply #25 on: Sep 24, 2004, 02:41:45 PM »
That's ok. I read it a lot more reciently than you did (last winter) so I know most of what's in it.


I think I'm taking Nuri's advice to heart on just skimming stuff. I haven't had enough time to read everything, so I've had to skim a lot, and read in detal the stuff I'm stuck on.

Most of the short stories I've skimmed and yet I got enough info about them that I could write a paragraph on them. One of them, Bartleby The Scrivenger, was so long and tedious and boring I didn't even read half of it and I still got the theme.

The bitch of a speech teacher pulled a test out of her ass this Wed even though we had a test the previous day. I aced it only because I skimmed the summaries at the end of each chapter.

My History essay had to be from one book and I had only read about 2/3 of the book, I concentrated on chapters that had info about my topic. It worked. I had to type 2-3 pages, and I had so much info I went through 4 pages and had to cut some stuff.



Now I have an essay on Huck Finn, and I don't have a thesis. I want to write about how Mark Twain had a dim view on human behavior and how humans can be cruel but yet there's hope, since the nicests people are an innocent boy and a black man.
For intance, you have so many mean, cruel, evil humans like Huck's dad, the feuding families, the King and Duke, that guy who shot the other guy, Tom's behavior towards Jim, and even people towards black people. And yet, even through all this mean human nature you have Jim, who's kind and selfless, and Huck, who wrestles with his consious and ends up doing the right thing eventually.

Gotta figure out a thesis to write this essay, it's much longer. :/
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« Reply #26 on: Sep 24, 2004, 05:50:10 PM »
2 terms ago i had to read a 300 pages book about COAL. thats the most boring shit ive ever had to read. on the other hand, i know more about coal that prolly 99% of the population:-/

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« Reply #27 on: Sep 24, 2004, 06:29:23 PM »
I have to write an apocalypse myth by Monday. It's to have been written in 300 BC, with the apocalypse taking place in 2600 AD. My mom has to be able to guess the region from my writing, but I can't give any definite clues. I can't use any existing dieties, and I have to use more than one, with some humans thrown in there for the hell of it. This is going to be fun to write, but also very dificult.

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« Reply #28 on: Sep 24, 2004, 06:57:08 PM »
Now that's an interesting and creative assignment. Almost makes me wish I was homeschooled.

But then again, if I had treated my home the way I treated my schools I probably would have ended up homeless at a very young age.  

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« Reply #29 on: Sep 25, 2004, 01:41:08 AM »
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2 terms ago i had to read a 300 pages book about COAL. thats the most boring shit ive ever had to read. on the other hand, i know more about coal that prolly 99% of the population:-/
Coal?  FTW?  Why?  For what class?