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« on: Jun 23, 2006, 06:09:51 AM »
3:23AM is an ungodly hour. God himself takes this moment to SLEEP. Me? I can't. For the first time in a long time, I can't go back to sleep. Why? Because it's HOT. No, not just Hot, or really hot, but it's FUCKING HOT. After Skipping spring, having some cold, Rainy summer days, and generally some weird ass fucking weather, we're now back into the goood-read horrible-old fucking hot Summer weather.
So. With nothing better to do, I've decided to reflect some more on this anime my pal's been showing me......The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. I'm now 12 episodes into the series.

My initial prognosis had me thinking this show would be an FLCL repeat with the mind fragging, and sometimes it seems to approach that level, but then it just scales it back from mind Frag to Quirky, and then to Downright normal. It's nice. I honestly like it. I enjoy the more normal episodes I think, much more than that off the wall ones.
As far as an example of off the wall. I finally saw the episode with the Class President revealing her true nature and trying to STAB KYON IN THE FACE. Why? Because she was a Data Mage like Yuki. Now, some seem to call Yuki a Technomage, but I think that classification is wrong. She doesn't use Technology to do crazy shit. She's a Data Entity, and manipulates Data to do crazy shit. Now, By Data it seems to be the surrounding UNIVERSE, but We're splitting words.
So anyway, up until this episode I'm just thinking "Kinda quirky with normal moments Anime." Then this Data Mage Class President tries to Kill Kyon....Just to see what Haruhi would do. There's deeper reasons but we don't care about that. What I care about is the fact that Yuki steps in AND GETS IMPALED BY NO LESS THAN FOUR SPIKES GENERATED BY THIS BITCH, SENDING A SPRAY OF BLOOD ON KYONS FACE. Yuki's Bleeding like a stuck pig FOUR TIMES OVER. It was at that moment I went "HOLY SHIT!" That's the most off-the-wall It's been thus far, Even moreso than the entire Data-Cricket incident. It had a LOT of violence this episode, and a lot of graphic bleeding. A Real shocker.

Then you get to more normal episodes, like the most recent one. A Culture fest. Standard Japanese fair...which got me thinking about America.

My friend posed an interesting question that I didn't think about until I was lying in my bed at 3:00am unable to sleep.
"Why doesn't America have something like that?" That being a Culture Festival. I think I know why.
Japan is a pretty universal country. By Universal I mean that, unlike America, Japan overall shares the same Culture. Sure there's some differences in different regions and all that, but Generally speaking, Japan is one solid culture. Everyone is Culturally Japanese. SO, they celebrate this, in the schools at least, with a Culture Fest, which, if judged by the Anime's I've seen, is really just an excuse for the entire student and faculty body to have lots of FUN.
America can't have that because America is one big mixing pool of Cultures, beliefs, and religions from all over the god damn world. Everybody in America has a right to express their own cultures in anyway they see fit as long as it doesn't involve death or maiming. It's why that, even though we're not perfect and still a relatively YOUNG global powet, we're the BEST DAMN COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
Why does this mean we can't have a Culture Fest? Because we have TOO MANY GOD DAMN CULTURES. If we were to have a Culture Fest, there'd be so many damn Cultures involved that ONE culture would start Bitching about ANOTHER Culture and Then Shit would hit the fan. So, THANKS A LOT AMERICA.

Anyway, back onto the subject of the Culture Fest Episode. I really enjoyed this one because of the Extremely HIGH Quality of Animation, and the relative normality of it. I'm amazed though. The Quality...the sheer quality of Animation on this particular episode is astounding, amazing even. I'm of course talking about when Haruhi and Yuki Are Subbing in for a band. They're both playing guitars, and the animatics of it are.....breathtaking. Especially Nagato, who is a savage beast on that Electric Six-String she got a hold of. There is no general "Blurring": of their hands just doing an up and down motion on the strings. You can SEE THE CHORDS they're playing, the finger positioning, and it's extremely smooth as they change notes and such.
 To note: Yuki Fingerpicks, which is very respectable, and plays a Gibson (ACDC Style one I believe, I forget it's name) and Haruhi has a pick.....and she plays a Fender. Girl's got Taste, I'll give'er that.
THe quality of Haruhi's facial animations while she's singing is excellent as well. I haven't seen such good animatics since back in the Days of Batman:TAS...and even then, I'd dare compare this particular Animatics of Haruhi to Early Disney works in terms of quality. It's actually given me hope for the Cartoons of the future. Not much, Not enough for me to start watching Saturday Morning Cartoons again, but a little bit of hope.

As far as Character development goes, it's actally fairly Decent.
Kyon Is the straight man of the group. The Normal man, the Average Joe. He keeps everybody grounded...to a point....and pretty much is the de-facto leader, and has grown into the role as such. Sure, Haruhi CLAIMS to run things, but in truth, Kyon's the fucker behind the scenes keeping everything together. And, he's done very well in influencing Haruhi. He's.....what's the best way to put it....He's influenced her to the point where she can enjoy more NORMAL things, like playing in a band and making really horrible (yet startlingly accurate) student films, rather than go looking for PARANORMAL things.
Case in point, she and the SOS Brigade got into a video Game match with the Computer club...who they'd blackmailed into giving them a computer early on. (Me, as a red-blooded guy who sincerely believes that Asahine's real Age is BEYOND that of a high Schooler? I admit, I find the Molestation she suffers very funny. Shut the Fuck up D, I'll cut your throat out if you say one damn thing you Perv.)
Very funny stuff, especially when Yuki starts learning HOW to use the computer. She Ends up as this Uber-Data-Hacker, naturally, and Turns the tables on the Computer club when they start CHEATING.At the end of the Episode, Yuki also agree's to come to the Computer Club once and a while and mess around. Very Nice Development. She's developing hobbies. I wonder what her Universal Data Entity Big Wig thinks about that.

Asahine, besides the Molestation she suffers at Haruhi's hands, is the most one dimensional character and not at all my favorite. Even Haruhi admits that she's mostly just Window-dressing. That's her entire god damn role in the SOS brigade AND in the Series thus far. Fanwanking for pervs like D. I'm hoping she develops more or something, cause as is? She's very flat, character-wise.

That Esper Guy, who's name eludes me....I don't like him. I don't like him in the fact that he's very mysterious and very little has been revealed about him. Yuki came straight out and said everything she was, plans, and does. This guy....He's very.....suspicious. Like He's got an agenda all his own and WANTS to appear harmless, but is hiding a great deal of things that'll probably end up biting someone in the ass, and hard. He has Character Growth Potential, but it has yet to be really delved into.

As far as the B Cast, that being those that show up occasionally like Kyon's two friends, What used to be the class Pres, and Asahine's friend....Well they're not on the show to be delved into, but they make amusing appearances. After what happened with the Pres, though....THis's made me very suspicious about them.

A Few Theories I have regarding Haruhi and her SOS Brigade:
1: I believe that Haruhi is not the trigger for anything regarding The Esper guy Whatever his name, the Data-Mage Yuki, or the Time Traveling Bubblehead Asahine. They all believe it's her, but I believe it's REALLY KYON. Look at'em. He's the complete opposite of Haruhi. I'm not saying Haruhi isn't causing some shit to go down, but I'm thinking Kyon's got something to do with it too. He's the Normal guy, and that's suspicious.
For instance, the Murder Mystery Two Part episodes. Haruhi would've been QUITE content to spend the weekend exploring that island beach to beach, but Kyon and that Esper Guy were worried cause of her talk of being some crazy "Ultra Detective" and talking about Murder Mysteries and crap. That Esper guy, in cahoots with two other cocksuckers, sets up this Murder Mystery crap to keep'er distracted. I dunno. Seems kinda fishy.

2: Asahine's friend, the bubbly hyperactive long haired one with the black hair. I'm thinking another Time traveler or Data Mage. Either one could be trouble. After what happened with the class President, I'm pretty much suspicious of ALL the "B Cast" players.

3: I believe, failing my first assumption up there, that Kyon and Haruhi are the same person. In soul at least. Two different sides of the same coin, see, and when they're "together", quote unquote in the same vicinity, this is why crazy shit happens. You need two clamps to Jumpstart an engine yaknow.....

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« Reply #1 on: Jun 23, 2006, 06:11:57 AM »
God lives on the east coast silly...It's 6.23 for him.  

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« Reply #2 on: Jun 23, 2006, 06:15:38 AM »
.......You shaddap. I have at least three hours before D or Tom comes in and adulterates this thread.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 23, 2006, 06:53:07 AM »
7:51 am here now.  God is wasted in the back seat making out with some 18 yr old chick and we're on our way to tijuana!

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« Reply #4 on: Jun 23, 2006, 07:07:07 AM »
Actually 7 :23.....I always forget about Mountain Time.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 23, 2006, 10:43:22 PM »
A Haruhi fan? o.o

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« Reply #6 on: Jun 24, 2006, 01:16:51 AM »
I've been hearing alot about this series and have decided to DL it

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« Reply #7 on: Jun 24, 2006, 11:56:09 AM »
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A Haruhi fan? o.o

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« Reply #8 on: Jun 24, 2006, 07:17:10 PM »
*Kawaiis*

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« Reply #9 on: Jun 24, 2006, 11:57:15 PM »
...Ew, IDE.
I'm actually hoping for a Season 2 for Haruhi. AND an English License.

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« Reply #10 on: Jun 25, 2006, 06:37:37 AM »
IM NOT HPING FOR ANYTHING EXCEOT MAYUBE MEETUING TOM IN REAL LIGFE AND HIS GIRLFFRIEND AND HER FRIND AND TEHN WE ALL GO COSPLAY AT SOME CONVENTUION AND I END UP BABNING THE DOGSHIT OUIT OF HER RFINED WHILE HE WATCHES AND BOTH HIM AND KARY COWER IN FEAR WHILE WATCHING THE SHEER PRETERNATURAL AWEOSOMENESSOF MY STROKE OMN THE ISLAMIC ANIME FAN.

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« Reply #11 on: Jun 25, 2006, 06:58:41 AM »
Would you still be in costume when you do this?

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« Reply #12 on: Jun 25, 2006, 08:46:06 AM »
Was he drunk when he typed all of that?

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« Reply #13 on: Jun 25, 2006, 01:16:49 PM »
He was probably pretending that he was.

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« Reply #14 on: Jun 26, 2006, 12:07:35 AM »
'Ey. This is a decent show, especially considering where it's coming from.
I'm not saying ALL Japanese Anime is crap. Far from it. I'm just saying, that a lot gets lost in translation, especially when an american company comes along and starts literally YANKING THINGS OUT, thus most anime I've seen is rather gutted. Japanese Anime, the really decent stuff that isn't all mind fraggy, perverted, or just plain WEIRD, I like that. This skirts around the border, which I like even more because it pulls it off really well. You get slices of wacky, serious, normal, and quirky that blend together really well.
ANime I have seen that haven't been gutted pieces of shit:
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun
Hellsing
Urusei Yatsura
Ghost Junction
Mahoromatic (I have issues with this.)
Those Who Hunt Eleves
Those Who Hunt Elves II
Martian Successor Nadesico (And the movie but wasn't very keen on the Movie)
Tenchi Muyo!
Tenchi in Space!
Slayers
Slayers Try
Slayers 3rd one Don't remember the name.
Gundam Wing (OH MY GOD I couldn't STAND that.)
Gundam Wing Endless Waltz (Crazy little Children.)
Original Gundam
G Gundam
Zeta Gundam
Char's Counterattack! (And Just a note on Gundam: STOP DROPPING BLOODY COLONIES ON EARTH. Since when did EARTH become a PARKING LOT FOR COLONIES?!?!))
Disgaea, though now it's been licensed so I can't watch anymore Fansubs...
Big O
Outlaw Star (Loved the gutiar work for the open theme.)
SOME of Wild Arms TV
.Hack/Sign (Kinda weird, kinda slow, but paid off in the end when the chick/guy stopped being a WUSSY.))
.hack/Twilight (Haven't finished it.
Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku
Nuku Nuku Dash
Nuku Nuku TV Series (That was funny shit. The Guitar guy only knew like Two or three freakin' cords though, I kept yelling at the TV. The fucker.)
Azumanga Daioh (I still think it's the Equivalent of Peanuts, only Japanese.)
Robotech
The ORIGINAL Robotech
Robotech: Mospeida
Some of Macross 7 ((Stupid Frippin' Main Character...But a Zentraedi Drummer is awesome.))
Galaxy Angels Seasons 1 and 2, MAYBE 3 I don't remember.
Medabots (I consider it an Anime. Shut up. AND I LIKED IT TOO.))
And of course The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
I feel like I'm forgetting some things though.
Cowboy Bebop, Galaxy Angels, Trigun, Hellsing (Old stuff haven't seen the newer stuff), Big O (Though that comes really close to just plain Weird.) And now the Melancholy rank among the ones I like best. Everything else is okay.
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« Reply #15 on: Jun 26, 2006, 08:50:03 AM »
Somebody needs a gf asap!

Hey! I don't see Dragonball there :angry:  

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« Reply #16 on: Jun 26, 2006, 09:39:10 AM »
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Hey! I don't see Dragonball there :angry:
That's right, you don't. Good Job Faye!
95% of these were shown to me by a friend.I've only Bought Azumanga Daioh, Medabots, and Those Who Hunt Evles 2.

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« Reply #17 on: Jun 26, 2006, 11:55:04 AM »
Stuff That I Have Seen! ^-^

Cowboy Bebop
One Peice (NOT THE 4KIDS DUB FROM HELL >.< *weeps* The Japanese is top notch and much more fun!)
Excel Saga
Azumanga Daioh
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Gundam Wing
Gundam Seed/Destiny (unfortunately I saw destiny...*shudders*)
Gundam X (Better!)
This Ugly and Beautiful World (looks pretty, WASTE OF TIME.)
Paranoia Agent (The opening theme still enchants me)
Gundam F91
G Gundam (I only wished they had accents...)
08th MS Team
Evangelion
Outlaw Star
Slayers (Yay!)
Trigun
Keroro Gunso
FLCL
Spiral (halfway through it)
Some of Ranma 1/2
Some of Abenobashi
Sailor Moon (Quiet you.)
Samurai Pizza Cats
Tenchi Muyo!
.Hack/Sign
.hack/Twilight
Half of Magic Knights Rayearth
Full Metal Panic/Fumofuu!
Full Metal Alchemist
Scrapped Princess
Cosplay Complex
Love Hina (Damn Naru...>.<)
Macross Plus
Read or Die
Scryed
ex-Driver
Sorceror Hunters
12 Kingdoms (Loved this! I want to read the novels!)
Escaflowne (series better than movie -.-)
Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040
Chobits
Some of Bleach...read the manga. -.-

And I think I got them all...I tend to like things that are either real over the top (Bobobo, Excel Saga both I LOVE) or some romance with comedy. I NEED to laugh if there's angst. @.x

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« Reply #18 on: Jun 26, 2006, 12:59:47 PM »
It's really funny when a hentai doujin has better quality art than the actual series.



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« Reply #19 on: Jun 26, 2006, 04:00:39 PM »
Tom's lady friend might want to chell out Pani Poni Dash!

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« Reply #20 on: Jun 26, 2006, 04:37:39 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 27, 2006, 08:39:29 AM »
That reminds me of a few I needed to add to the list. Thanks' Kary....
R.O.D The Movie.
o8th MS Team
Samurai Pizza Cats...I didn't know this was an anime.
Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040...Kinda liked this one kinda didn't....
Shit...I know I'm forgetting more...Ah well.

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« Reply #22 on: Jun 27, 2006, 09:28:10 AM »
Hey! Samurai Pizza cats was NOT an anime! I used to watch that!

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« Reply #23 on: Jun 27, 2006, 09:34:14 AM »
I don't see any Akira or Ghost in the Shell on either of your lists. The Rama is displeased.

Good to see Macross though (The Orginal Robotech) that and Voltron where my first real anime experinces. FORM BLAZING SWORD!!!!!  

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« Reply #24 on: Jun 27, 2006, 12:55:51 PM »
Wheee! My turn!  :)

Gatchaman, Gatchaman II, Gatchaman F
Gatchaman OVA (God help me....)
Patalirro
Urusei Yatsura
Yoroiden Samurai Troopers
Mobile Suit Gundam
Gundam Wing/Endless Waltz
(Hell, pretty much everything that's been on AS to some degree & previously mentioned)
Doctor Slump
Gigantor
Nausicaa
Lupin III
Ai No Kusabi
Kaze to Ki no Uta
Pet Shop of Horrors
Blood: The Last Vampire
Biohunter
Serial Experiment Lain
Descendants of Darkness
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Gilgamesh
Psychodiver
Twelve Kingdoms
Key the Metal Idol
Appleseed
Texhnolyze
Berserk
Hellsing
Captain Harlock/Galaxy Express
Earthian
Wedding Peach
Fake
Kizuna
Macross
Record of Lodoss War
Vampire Hunter D/VHD:Bloodlust
Tenchi Muyo
Sol Bianca
Legend of Galactic Heroes
Most movie releases (Akira, Princess Mononoke, Metropolis, etc.)

And a lot of stinkers like Darkside Blues & Debutante Detective Corps  <_<




 
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« Reply #25 on: Jun 27, 2006, 01:31:02 PM »
Of course Samurai Pizza cats is an anime! ^-^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Pizza_Cats

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« Reply #26 on: Jun 27, 2006, 02:13:53 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 27, 2006, 02:22:48 PM »
Hey, I wept openly!   B)  

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« Reply #28 on: Jun 27, 2006, 04:06:26 PM »
Blood: The Last Vampire was awesome. I saw it when I was in Iowa on Encore and I just couldn't get enough of it. Did they ever do a sequel? and if not, then why the fuck not? I want to know more about Saya, but we only barely get a glimpse of what she is and was. That thing was far too short.  

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« Reply #29 on: Jun 27, 2006, 04:57:32 PM »
The only sequel that I know of is in manga form.

There's also the Blood+ series, same girl but very different animation and designs.
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