Fuck experience

[Dagurasu]

one of the things that's pissing me off the most about getting a job nowadays is the shitty job market, and I think I know why it's shitty. Every job requires experience and no job is willing to give you that experience.

So far, I've been denied at 3 employment agencies. One said that they wouldn't take me because I had been unemployed more than 6 months (wtf?), but the other two said they needed someone with experience in warehouse work... why do you need experience in a warehouse? What, to know how to move a box from one place to another?

Same thing at Murray's and this bike shop I went to. The bike shop wanted experienced people to work there for bike repairs... it's not like I can get a bachelors in bike repair, where am I supposed to get this experience? Murray's wanted someone with "Parts" experience, which didn't make sense, how hard is it to look up a part on a computer and get it off a shelf? Yes, I know this is a starter and this is a brake caliper, I just spent my entire weekend fixing my damn car!

I hardly bother to read the Sunday job section because 80% of the jobs need fucking experience.

How come every place wants you to have experience, but the only way to get that experience is working at one of those places? It's a paradox. You can't work at this store without experience, but you get experience by working at this store.

This is why the economy is going to shit. I blame Bush and his anti-Greek-gay-apprenticeship amendment.

[tomduo]

LIE ON YOUR APPLICATION!

You fucking idiot.

[Rama]

Just when I think D has beat the horse to death, that horse shows up again with a twenty dollar bill and a smile on it's face.  

[Faye Valentine]

I think D should create a thread JUST about his bitching experiences. That way whoever wants to read it will go there, instead of having to create 100000 threads about his bitching. Good lord, if someone that isn't a member comes and see all the threads he has written, he/she is gonna think this is a damn livejournal.

[B E C K]

Go work at McDonald's for six months and then reapply at the agency.

[Merla]

Do some voluenteer work.  Just say the hell away from the kids.  

[B E C K]

 You're right, what was I thinking.  I've endangered the playplace!

[Extra Zero]

He could work at a McDonalds...with a 'Playplace'...

I'd call it "win-win".
 

[Merla]

Why must he complain about everything?  What downer!  Makes you wonder if Doug even have any real friends.

[Extra Zero]

His mom...

Literally.

[Dagurasu]

Mock me if you wish, but I don't plan on working in retail for my entire life like some of you guys. At least I'm trying to get an entry-level job in something.

It just pisses me off when the paper's job listings are so thin, and every job I see there and apply to requires experience, and especially when they expect you to have professional experience even though I KNOW I can do the damn job without it.

One of the agencies that denied me has a position for an assistant webdesigner. I'm going to demand they let me try for the job or I'll kill someone down there.

[Extra Zero]

Mock me if you wish, but I don't plan on working in retail for my entire life like some of you guys. At least I'm trying to get an entry-level job in something.

 

I think only a couple people here work retail and those who do are in school.  You can't get an "entry-level" job without any experience, that's just how it works.  If you don't like it, go to a communist country.  I've worked hard my entire life, since I was fourteen, and it's partially why I have the job I have today.  I'm training to become an ortopedics sales rep for the company I work for and if all goes well, I'll be making six figures by the time I'm 30.

You take jobs, you work hard, you move up.  It's just like one of your gay little RPGs.  You start out weak and move up by doing things you don't necessarily want to do.

One of the agencies that denied me has a position for an assistant webdesigner. I'm going to demand they let me try for the job or I'll kill someone down there.

I can see that going belly up.  Do you have anything to show for it?  A portfolio?  Anything?  I'm willing to bet "no".   I'm also curious how far that whiny,  "demanding" attitude will get you into that agency...

 

[B E C K]

One of the agencies that denied me has a position for an assistant webdesigner.

After that anime club website you showed us, I don't see how the agency not denying you would've work out anyway.

[Dagurasu]

I've had so many web design classes my head hurts. That anime website was before them. Sure I don't have a portfolio but I'm working on that. Even if I crank out a pointless website for myself that has 3 pages if it looks pretty hopefully it's all good.

And when I talk experience I mean for shit like selling auto parts, auto repair (I have personal experience), sitting in front of a desk taking calls, working in a warehouse.

You can't get an "entry-level" job without any experience, that's just how it works.

That's the point of "Entry Level", it means they don't expect you to have professional experience. Entry Level =  No Professional Experience. Some places still might want you to know how to do the job, but others will train. And there's a severe lack of entry level in michigan.

[Sam]

I would just like to take this opportunity to say that I have no fuck experience in the ass.

[Faye Valentine]

Hahaaa I've been offered 2 jobs already and I haven't graduated yet! One of them is as a financial advisor, wtf, I don't even know what do you have to do if you are working as one

[Bernie]

One of them is as a financial advisor, wtf, I don't even know what do you have to do if you are working as one

Make certain that it's a rock-bottom entry level trainee position where you won't be required to make any decisions regarding people's money until you have a few years of financial experience under your belt.  Trust me, I'm not insulting you when I say that.  People get very lawsuit-happy when someone loses money for them.
 

[Faye Valentine]

Well they say they would train me, but I'm not sure about it. You know what does a financial advisor does?

[IDE]

I'm using the connections I've made through friends, family, and school to find jobs.  You're better off tapping that resource (that doesn't mean bang out your cousin) than looking in a paper to find employment.

[tomduo]

I'm gonna probably go into Pharmacy school... yeah, that sounds sweet.

[Faye Valentine]

Wait, aren't you a history major?

[Sam]

The only thing a history major can do is become a history professor and continue the cycle.

[Merla]

That sums it up in a nutshell!  I studies history as well.  I do not want to be a boring history professor!

If Tom has all the prereqs and a killer MCAT score it doesn't matter what he majored in.  The same goes for medical doctors as well.  I've heard of theater and music majors going to Medical school. Go figure.


[shit!!!  I had typed "boning history professor!" hahaha}

[tomduo]

Wait, aren't you a history major?

Yeah, but school is expensive and I want money now. To become a pharmacist I don't have to do much more, and then pharmacists now get 50k signing bonuses with loads of benefits and such, moving and travel expenses, andd 200,000+ starting salaries. I think that's a good way to save up for masters and doctoral school, especially through getting the 50k bonus from one pharmacy chain, working there for a year, switching to another chain for another bonus, etc.

Walmart and Target are desperately scrambling for Pharmacists, because unlike lawyers there's not enough in school to fill the growing demand. CVS and Walgreens corner the market on getting them, while headhunters from Wal and Target wrestle the older ones from the chains to work in their stores. The swelling old population will just put Pharmacists in higher demand, increasing their salaries and benefits. Every pharmacist I know drive a BMW or better.

[Rama]

He don't like the drugs, but the drugs like him.  

[Chopper Face 69]

I've had so many web design classes my head hurts. That anime website was before them. Sure I don't have a portfolio but I'm working on that. Even if I crank out a pointless website for myself that has 3 pages if it looks pretty hopefully it's all good.

Not trying to be rude here but....

What the fuck are you new to Internet? Every jerk off an his mom has a site. Fucking 12 year old bitches are making sweet designed websites for dumb ass shit like Black Eye Peas fan listing sites and you can't trouble yourself to make something up?  Don't bitch about not having experience and fucking get some. Make a site about any dumb shit you can think of, not matter how retarded the topic. Make it pretty. Make it what you want to make for other people. Then when you apply for a job you have something to show them.

For every guy out there with a background in web design education without even a single site to back it up there are a thousand people who learned that shit on their own with a better chance of getting the job.

You're in one of the few feilds where you have the oppurtunity to create your own experience without having to work to get it and all you can do is bitch about it like a fucking little bitch. Get off your ass.

[tomduo]

*claps* I am totally homeschooled in graphics and webdesign. ^_^

[Bernie]

You know what does a financial advisor does?

From careerplanner.com:

Advise clients on financial plans utilizing knowledge of tax and investment strategies, securities, insurance, pension plans, and real estate. Duties include assessing clients' assets, liabilities, cash flow, insurance coverage, tax status, and financial objectives to establish investment strategies.

This is just the brief description.  You might want to review the whole page.  

50+ hours a week


 

[Merla]

What a strange duck!

[B E C K]

I'd be kinda worried about your clients if you don't even know what a financial advisor is.