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So how about that immigration....
« Reply #30 on: Apr 11, 2006, 01:02:43 PM »
Up for a little proactivity?  :D

Everyone who is upset about the number of illegal immigrants in the country should begin writing his/her congressional representatives.  Don't prattle on about security and scofflaws and protests - they watch the news.  Plainly state that as a consumer, you will not mind or won't care that the increased price of hiring legal workers as opposed to illegal ones will be passed on to you.

An illegal employee does not receive any of the following:

*Minimum wage, either as salary or compensation for the balance after tips up to minimum
*Overtime pay
*In Texas, they do not receive workers comp.  Texas is the only state without a mandatory workers comp law, so employers here can offer a higher wage and be choosy since WC insurance is elective.
*social security contributions
*unemployment

In addition, legal employees will rarely work without one or more of the following:

*Paid sick time and/or vacation
*Health insurance
*Retirement plan


Now if you as an employer are paying an illegal immigrant $3 an hour to pick lettuce or shingle roofs or bus tables and figure your business expenses and profit margin based on that expenditure for labor, then suddenly have to provide all of the mandatories above, plus pay minimum wage and probably throw in a perk or two and your labor expense per employee increases to $15-20 an hour, you're going to be a good flag-waving American and take it up the ass, right?

 :lol:

Unless you are drunk on the heady wine of patriotism or in business for fun, you, dear employer, are going to pass your increased expenses on TO THE CONSUMER.  Citing prior examples, meat and produce will be costlier to get to market, home repairs will increase (and that includes apartment rent - the landlord probably won't fix things for free) and prices in restaurants from McDonalds to Maxim's will go up. The consumer will more likely than not ultimately blame the government and may react accordingly in the next election.   Also, there are thousands upon thousands of children of illegals born here.  That makes them US citizens with the right to VOTE, and they are starting to get rather vocal about the prospect of their families being broken up.  Bit of a sticky wicket, hmm?

With a great deal of the economy based on cheap illegal labor, changing that dynamic will take time and a certain amount of sacrifice on the part of the consumer, so if you feel strongly about the issue, get the ball rolling by assuring the elected officials who feel as you do that you're prepared to make those sacrifices.  If they feel certain that their constituents who want nothing to do with an illegal immigrant-fueled economy in any way will outnumber the opposition and keep them in office, they will vote in turn to pass the laws you collectively want.
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« Reply #31 on: Apr 11, 2006, 10:35:21 PM »
Dear Sir and/or Madam Congressman,

They can sneak over to pick my fruit they just need to stay out of school.

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« Reply #32 on: Apr 12, 2006, 08:59:29 AM »
We should just gather them all up in camp, make them pick out fruit for free and then when we are done with them gas them all. I don't think there is any president for that being wrong, so it must be right!  

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« Reply #33 on: Apr 12, 2006, 10:36:50 AM »
Talk about your protests....
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Dear Congressional bitches,

Fuck a Mexico.  Show our welfare dependents some love!  They're already being paid, so indenture them.

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Of course, if immigration reform was complemented with tax reform, the impact on business wouldn't be as bad.  But they're doing nothing about either issue.  But if a business has to survive on illegal labor, then survival of the fittest comes into play.  We've survived much worse in the past.
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« Reply #34 on: Apr 12, 2006, 06:03:43 PM »
I wish to whip Mexicans and exclaim that their names are "Tobey"...
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« Reply #35 on: Apr 12, 2006, 06:46:52 PM »
If only I had the guns Mr Tweed I'd shoot each and every one of them before they set foot on American soil.

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« Reply #36 on: Apr 13, 2006, 05:02:16 PM »
Then who would pick your fruit?  Big picture, all-star, big picture!

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« Reply #37 on: Apr 13, 2006, 06:51:42 PM »
Well, I'll tell you how I'd do it...

*WHIP*

"YOUR NAME IS TOBEY!"

Yeah...yeah...that's how I'd do it...
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« Reply #38 on: Apr 13, 2006, 07:49:30 PM »
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Then who would pick your fruit?  Big picture, all-star, big picture!
damn it...I guess we'd just have to make fruit picking a legitimate trade and pay a solid wage to Americans to do it.  Sure the price of strawberries would go up but I can live with it.

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« Reply #39 on: Apr 13, 2006, 11:24:59 PM »
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Well, I'll tell you how I'd do it...

*WHIP*

"YOUR NAME IS TOBEY!"

Yeah...yeah...that's how I'd do it...
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« Reply #40 on: Apr 13, 2006, 11:27:50 PM »
Shut up, Tobey.
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« Reply #41 on: Apr 13, 2006, 11:29:18 PM »
You....You would whip Geordi?

I don't want it to be easy, I want it to be right.

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« Reply #42 on: Apr 13, 2006, 11:33:16 PM »
Hell yeah!

Align the warp core now bitch! *Whip*  

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« Reply #43 on: Apr 14, 2006, 01:31:36 AM »
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Then who would pick your fruit?  Big picture, all-star, big picture!
damn it...I guess we'd just have to make fruit picking a legitimate trade and pay a solid wage to Americans to do it.  Sure the price of strawberries would go up but I can live with it.
Can you?  CAN you?

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« Reply #44 on: Apr 14, 2006, 02:29:36 AM »
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« Reply #45 on: Sep 17, 2016, 05:20:29 PM »
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http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/op_ed/...-headlines-oped

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In 1983, I was a judge at the Terlingua Chili Cookoff, and my memory of the events may not be perfect. Anyway, it was '83 or right around there when we held The Fence climbing contest. See, people talked about building The Fence back then, too. The Fence along the Mexican border. To keep Them out.

At the time, the proposal was specific - a 17-foot cyclone fence with bob wire at the top. So a test fence was built at Terlingua, and the First-Ever Terlingua Memorial Over, Under or Through Mexican Fence Climbing Contest took place. Prize: a case of Lone Star beer. Winning time: 30 seconds.

I tell this story to make the one single point about the border and immigration we know to be true: The Fence will not work. No fence will work. The Great darn Wall of China will not work. Do not build a fence.They will come anyway. Over, under or through.


Ten years later, I've finally caught the mistake.  I'm so eagle-eyed.  And, apparently, fucking bored.  "Bob wire."

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« Reply #46 on: Sep 18, 2016, 02:35:09 PM »
Wonder if that's anything like a bobwhite.
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« Reply #47 on: Sep 18, 2016, 11:50:15 PM »
Lidia Bastianich made some tasty looking stuffed quail but there's something about having to cram the homemade stuffing in the dead quail asses that made me not want to cook it.  I dunno, like, even dead they were so little and cute I'd feel bad about cooking it.  Not so much about eating it because it did look delicious.