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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #30 on: Jun 12, 2016, 10:35:03 AM »
She has a pink outfit, but she isn't in Blue Lion yet.


Ok I saw the pilot. My normal means of getting Netflix stuff is failing me, but I did find someone with the pilot. The show so far is more Good then Bad.  The only thing I hate with a passion is Coran. That is such a 180 from the original who was always so stern. And I can't believe the Space Mice made the cut! Really? Anyway I kinda like Lance, Hunk and Pidge....I also agree that the girl in the photo is Pidge and that is her brother and not Pidge himself. I can see Lance as Space Sokka, but I like Sokka so this isn't a problem for me, and Hunk isn't that annoying.

Really not liking, but not hating yet, just not liking Shiro and Keith. Keith is easy on why I don't like him. No personality. At all. It's like they striped him to give it to Shiro, but forgot to replace it with anything. I think they are going to far to explain why people's outfits don't match their Lion Colors. And Shiro is just "Me Leader" and that's it.

I like Voltron's new look, but I hate the look for Doom's ships and such. I miss the creepy skulls and weird look of stuff like Skull Tanks. And other weird changes like Sendik (or however you say his name.) is clearly Yurick from the original show so just why not call him Yurick?

But again....Coran....just awful.
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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #31 on: Jun 12, 2016, 08:18:57 PM »
My normal means of getting Netflix stuff is failing me....

Are you still on dial-up?
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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #32 on: Jun 12, 2016, 09:52:24 PM »
No I am not. I have Dishnet....


and that may or may not be my normal means of getting Netflix stuff.


Ok Kick Ass Torrents is where I get my stuff. And I'm already downloading the series, but it is taking awhile even on Dish.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #33 on: Jun 13, 2016, 04:32:20 AM »
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I can see Lance as Space Sokka, but I like Sokka so this isn't a problem for me, and Hunk isn't that annoying.

I like Sokka too but Sokka was a fifteen year old boy who, for years, was the eldest male in his secluded village and didn't know a whole lot about the world he was in other than the effects of the war on his own people.  Lance shouldn't be acting like the same character imo.  Secondly, Sokka benefited greatly with Jack De Sena's on-point comedic timing and ad-libbing.  De Sena did NOT perform Sokka exactly the way he was written on paper.  Part of Sokka was made strictly through how the actor interpreted the character.  If they really wanted Space!Sokka that badly, they should've casted Jack De Sena as Lance and done it right.  Instead, Lance is lingering dangerously close to Bolin territory with stupid lines, inappropriately-timed humor, and over-manic reactions.  He's not at that point, thank god.  Because I hated Bolin.  (Specifically, Bolin right after his date with Korra onward.  Early Bolin was a much better dude and I wish he had stuck around instead of becoming progressively pathetic.)

And I'm glad Hunk doesn't annoy you.  At least that way only one of us has to suffer.  I hate that he's a bunch of fat jokes.  I want to punch a baby.


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Keith is easy on why I don't like him. No personality. At all. It's like they striped him to give it to Shiro, but forgot to replace it with anything.

Thank you for wording that better than I could.  That pisses me off.  Someone at another board described Keith as a less angry Zuko.  I would say he's more of a post-Team Avatar Zuko: except Team Avatar Zuko had gone through two and a half seasons of personal growth before he joined the team while Keith hasn't earned shit.  I feel like no one understands Keith.  Hey, I didn't care for him either as a kid so I get that.  But thinking about it now, it reminds me of people who hate Leonardo.  (Who I also didn't care for as a kid.)  The only way to grow that type of guy is to make him struggle in his leadership role.  That could've been easy.  Kill off Shiro four or five episodes in, forcing Keith to bond with Black Lion and take over the team because no one else will or can step up.  But this show strips that from Keith!


Wait. Where is Princess? I thought Princess was pink? Is this available to watch now?

She's there and has a pink suit but...  Spoilery Space...






































....never pilots a fucking lion from what I saw.  What was the point in that?  That's worse than making her a space elf.

Incoming rant...

It's like, you know, the 80's Voltron was no masterpiece by a mile.  I recognize that.  But it had sort of these special things that made it memorable:  Cool lions that formed a bad-ass robot with a blazing sword set to awesome music and narration that helped make it epic; Cackling, ugly villains that were enjoyable to watch; And personal growth for a young, naive princess who steps up to the plate to become a brave pilot.  And the whole "taking out one of the main guys and replacing him with the chick" was a shocking thing back then (even if Sven did technically go to the Hospital Planet, heh) and would've been equally so to kids today if the makers of new Voltron had the balls to take out Shiro.  But none of that makes the cut here.  This series is all "ho ho, see we stuck in some dark people.  Shiro's Nihonjin desu!  We have the Walking Dead Asian and a black woman in our voice cast.  Pidge is Mulan.  We are so progressive and diverse!  Nee-ner nee-ner nee-ner.  Ho ho ho.  Where's our medal now?"

What good did it do to make Pidge a woman so we could have more estrogen and then reduce the role of the main woman pilot whilst kicking out every other woman in the damn series except Haggar and not adding any more women?  And I mean women with dialogue, not background bitches.  Not chicks who only exist to be hit on like the alien bitch in episode 6 or whatever.  There's no Nanny, no Romelle, none of the village women.  They could've added women to the bad guys roster.  Like an original woman minion.  That would've been cool.  They could've stuck Queen Merla in this.  They could've made women the leaders of the Galaxy Garrison training program or whatever.  That's how you add more women.  It's like they thought making one of the dudes a woman was curing the sausage fest.

It was not "diverse" to make the little guy a woman and to make the big guy a punchline of fat jokes (the vomiting, the weight humor with him AND his lion, his open-mouth gaping stupid expression).  The big guy and the kid were there to bring variety to the series.  "Hey, you can be a little guy or a husky guy and still be a needed member of this team."  So many people are in love with fem!Pidge I don't think anyone's even considering how insulting that is: why didn't they make one of the other pilots a secret woman?  Because they were masculine enough to "earn their keep as men" while Pidge with his hairband and weird voice has always been a joke.  "Let's *completely* emasculate him.  Ho ho."

I'm also annoyed that with all of their trumping of diversity, they coded Pidge as being as white as possible instead of even trying to be racially ambiguous with her.  "Katie" is such a fucking white name.  At least use something that flies in other cultures.  Like Mia or Aya or something.  "Katie?"  If they made Sven into Shiro why didn't they make Pidge in Suzu?  Well, actually, I know why.  Because more than one Japanese person would be too many.  Just like only one woman pilot on the team when we could've had two.  Only one Asian person and one black person in the voice cast when we could've had more.  We need a diverse team, let's make ONE person Japanese.


I'm actually not as a mad as I probably sound about Pidge.  Pidge is definitively one of the better written characters here unlike, say, Keith.  But seeing the press for this show and reading through various talkbacks and discussions about it, I feel like a bunch of people are patting new Voltron on the back for being soooo progressive and diverse when it's really not.  Google the voice actors of Steven Universe.  That's what a diverse cast looks like.
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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #34 on: Jun 14, 2016, 11:18:55 PM »
I finished the show....I think. I mean that was the ending they went with? I don't want to say that is a cliffhanger as more it is just incomplete. Feels more like part one of a two part episode and not a season finale at all. More like they finished working on this episode and then started to work on the next one, but then realized Netflix only ordered 11. Hope it gets a 2nd season just because this shit ain't finished.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #35 on: Jun 16, 2016, 05:34:58 AM »
You're right.  I take it back.  That is NOT a cliffhanger ending.  It was just some abrupt bullshit.  The speculation is that it will get another season despite not having official confirmation from Netflix.  Just because a lot of Netflix's offerings are multi-seasonal.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #36 on: Jun 16, 2016, 05:42:42 AM »
That fucking sidemouth is disgusting.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #37 on: Jun 19, 2016, 07:38:52 PM »
I might take a look at this. I kind of remember Voltron from when I was a kid, like, some people had the toys for whatever reason, but I don't recall it airing on any of our TV stations. Would have been strictly a VHS rental thing.

How does it look? Is it full-blown anime, or does it have that weird quasi-anime thing going on?

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #38 on: Jun 21, 2016, 03:50:17 PM »
Quasi-anime look just like Legend of Korra.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #39 on: Jun 21, 2016, 04:49:15 PM »
Oh dear...


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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #40 on: Jun 21, 2016, 05:44:19 PM »
Well the general look of it isn't terrible but a lot of the humor tries too hard imo.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #41 on: Nov 11, 2016, 06:46:35 PM »
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/07/voltron-legendary-defender-netflix-release-date-season-2

Boo, it got pushed back.  Last I heard it was supposed to be December and now it's in January.  What will I bitch about before Christmas now?

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #42 on: Jan 20, 2017, 03:41:36 AM »
Didn't realize it came out today.  Skipped to the very end.  "Summon Prince Lotor."  Fuck you.  I wanted Lotor, dammit.  That's two seasons without Lotor.  How long did it take last time to get to him?  Eight episodes?  This show needed him a season and a half ago.  The humor has not improved.  The plot feels all over the place.  Hunk is still fat and stupid and that's the joke.  Ho ho.  You know what, with this "Shiro" guy around, there's too many characters now.  There's just too many.  I can't get invested in any of them.  I want them all to go live on a little asteroid together and then I want the asteroid to explode.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #43 on: Jan 20, 2017, 03:00:28 PM »
Wow, you sound seriously bitter. Like, holy shit. :laugh:

Kind of like me with Rogue One. :happy:

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #44 on: Jan 21, 2017, 03:25:12 AM »
Ha ha, yeah.  I'm not really bitter so much because it's Voltron and my nostalgia's offended, I'm just greedy.  I'm really, really hungry for something cool to watch and in another universe this show could've delivered.  It's like Legend of Korra in space.  I also realized something about it: it's actually very conflict avoidant.  Think about it... they got rid of Nanny, made Coran hip with the kids, and made two seasons without Lotor, when all three of them were antagonistic on one level or another with the princess and the other pilots.  And instead of killing off Sven, they brought in this Shiro guy who steals face-time from other characters.  I'm really pissed btw that the damn princess is not a pilot.  Her stepping up, meeting resistance from the others, needing to learn to fly a lion, and filling a the hole left by Sven was so big to me when I saw that as a little girl and this damn show took that away from this generation of little girls.  "But Pidge is a grill!111"  And on top of that they really made everyone's personality so reductive.  Why is Keith the broody one?  He could get angry but he was never "the broody one."  Ugh, this show.  Time to go watch old Voltron again.
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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #45 on: Feb 09, 2017, 08:58:14 AM »
Well I finished season 2...and I won't be as hard on it as Beck. I actually rather enjoyed it...although when Coran got the "slipperers", or however the fuck you spell that, I almost walked away. But I stuck it out and in the end I was pretty happy overall. Although just like the end of Season 1 felt like a mid-season break, the end of Season 2 felt like it was suppose to be the end of Season 1. It was an ending, but with cliffhangers to get you to come back next season. Unlike Season 1 where that was a complete non-ending.

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Re: Voltron: Legendary Defender
« Reply #46 on: Feb 10, 2017, 04:42:57 AM »
Sorta feels like they got the Thundercats reboot writers to fill in for a few episodes.  The bad writers, not the good writers we had in episodes 1 and 2.