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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1830 on: Mar 19, 2019, 01:23:04 AM »
So, finally finished season 3 and moving onto season 4. At this point I wanted to do a season a week which is a bit difficult even with each season being 10 episodes. Doesn't help that it's not streamable on Netflix so I've been borrowing the dvds from my brother and that's a slower way of doing it.

First off, was the third season supposed to be the redemption season? Where people I loathed in season 2 I now feel sorry for? I mean Jaymie, Sandor, and Theon.... especially Theon. I figured after season 2 I'd enjoy Theon getting fucked up but it's painful to watch. And Ramsay is a fucking prick. I think I hate this man more than Joffery. Even Joffery was starting to be redeemed a little.

That's one of the things I heard from one of features where the actors are like "Well, all of the characters are gray... none are truly good or evil. That's the amazing thing about these characters." Yea, sure, okay. It's pretty clear for the most part which characters you root for... Dany, the Stark children, Tyrion, the bastard blacksmith. And which characters you hate... Joffery, Tywin, the Boltons, ect. There are some more gray characters that have redeemed themselves, the ones I mentioned above. But it's obvious who the heroes and villians are.

And then the end of season 3. Fuck. I had heard about this event from the strong reactions from people online when it first aired. But, I thought for sure the event in question was A) a later season, B) happened somewhere else, and C) involved the Lannisters directly. Did not expect what happened to happen, but when the arrows started flying I realized that it was that event. Left me reeling.

Oh, and I kinda knew what was going to happen to Robb in that scene, although like I said, I expected it to happen in a later season. You can thank the GoT wikis for that. I go to the wikis to look up info about characters I don't know about, or locations I'm curious about. And it's very very hard not to get spoiled by the wikis. They're not very good at keeping the spoilers contained to later in the article. Like, split the article into seasons so I know when to stop reading.

Last thought. I love how they change the ending credits music based on what happened when the episode ended. The best ending and biggest surprise was when what happened to Jaymie, and then the ending credits music was this jaunty Irish pub tune. Just... perfect.


It's a lot of that but there are some great battles in the series. S2E9 does have one pretty good battle but not at the scale of LOTR battles. S6 and S5 have (IIRC) the most battles. Most of the seasons have some skirmishes here and there and maybe one big story-event-battle episode. There's nothing on the scale of the Battle of Pelenor Fields or the Battle of the Hornburg. More are closer to the defense of Osgiliath, or the skirmish at Amon Hen. There are some larger ones as well but still not really on the scale of LOTR films. There are some solid battles in the series for sure. In the upcoming last season, we might have a particularly large battle as well.

In one of the bonus features talking about the battle of Kings Landing they said they wanted to do a big battle for season 1, one of the battles between the Northmen and Lannisters, but they had run out of money. Kinda funny to hear HBO say they've run out of money but I guess I can understand considering it was the beginning of the series and it hadn't established itself yet. Still, it's HBO. I heard the Battle of King's landing took up nearly 50% of the budget of the second season which sounds crazy, especially since they used only one prop boat for every ship in Stannis' fleet. And the mud gate wall was just a small set next to a lake. Still was a pretty impressive battle although there were times when the actual number of bodies on camera kinda gave away that there wasn't that many actors fighting in those scenes... the rest of the ships, rowboats, and fighters were CG. Also, Fuck the king!
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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1831 on: Apr 01, 2019, 01:24:55 AM »
So now that I'm well into season 5 now, here's some Game of Thrones Fourth Season thoughts (Spoilers duh):

- I can see why they introduced Ramsay Bolton... they needed someone to replace Joffrey as the most evil human in Westeros.

- In season 3 there was this guy named Daario of the Second Sons who joins Dany, and the guy looks like a real 80s hair metal guitarist. Then season four comes along, and there's this guy with a beard that pops up in a similar role, and I'm thinking "They changed actors, didn't they." Yep. I actually miss the metalhead though, I liked him better.

- I a bonus feature about the battle of Castle Black, they mentioned that on one day of shooting, it started raining, and becausee of... money reasons?... they shot in the rain, and then CGd the rain out of the scene. Seriously, it was cheaper to CG the rain out of the scene than just, wait until the rain stopped fucking pouring? I feel more let down than when they CG shaved Henry Cavill's face.

- Shae has to be the dumbest fucking person in that series. She doesn't understand why Tywin has to marry Sansa like she's never heard of arranged marriages before (though maybe the country she comes from doesn't have arranged marriages). Even though she doesn't see Tywin consummate his marriage she still acts jealous. And then she doesn't understand why he has to send her away, oblivious to how dangerous King's Landing really is. And then the jealous bitch goes and lies in court against Tyrion. Her death was the most satisfying thing ever. Fuck her ass.

- Also, getting shot on the toilet has to be the worst way to die and it couldn't have happened to a more stuck up character.

- One of the things that bothered me about Dany's actions in Meereen. She decides to punish the masters by crucifying some of them. And I thought to myself "But now she's not much better than the original slavers. And what if some of those masters she killed were good to their slaves, or even freed their slaves. And sure enough, in a later episode one of the master's sons comes up and said his dad opposed the bad treatment of slaves.
I appreciate that Martin and the writers are showing Dany's rule of Meereen as not going as smooth as she would like it. People who spent their whole lives having slaves would not want their comfortable way of life upended so quickly without being resentful. And we have example of that in the KKK-like Harpys of season 5. Not to mention slaves being hateful toward their former masters. I am happy to see that the writers are showing that some of Dany's actions have negative consequences and that liberating tyrannical slave governments is easier than actually ruling over them.

- On a last thought, it really annoys me when fantasy writers throw around long spans of time in a novel's past without thinking of how long it would actually be. The first men arrive in Westeros 12000 years ago, fight the Children of the Forest for 2000 years, and during that time the Children create the first White Walkers. But the Walkers only appear 8000 years ago. So what were they doing for 2000-4000 years? Discovering masturbation? Just throw random spans of time around, sounds legit.
And the 12000 years that have passed since Westeros was first colonized. I don't know the technology of those first men (Stone age maybe?) but the Westeros of today is iron age, and between around Roman Empire and Mid Middle Ages in technology. Why aren't they more advanced in 12000 years? At least they should have cannons and/or siege weapons, or at least electricity and spaceships and shit.
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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1832 on: Apr 10, 2019, 01:06:52 AM »
Game of Thrones season 5.

Gotta love this series. In a previous season you love a character (or at least tolerating them) only to find yourself hating them in the next season (like Stannis and the Red Witch for burning a child alive, or that Black Watch kid that has perpetual angry face and gets all stabby stabby at the end). Or hating a character but then feeling sorry for them (like Cersei).

Oh, something that bugged me. Back in season 2 I wondered how Bran got around the Bolton's siege of Winterfell and left without being spotted. Another thing that confused me this season was the aftermath of Hardhome's destruction. So Hardhome is on the coast of the ocean. The survivors board Stannis' fleet. So why... why did they just not use the fleet to get around the wall? Why did they go through the gate instead? The gate is hundreds of miles away from Hardhome.  What the fuck????

And something else I didn't understand. That the youngest of Oberyn's daughters found Bronn hot. We're thinking of the same Bronn, right? Maybe Bronn is hotter in the books idk.

And is anyone else tired of Baelish's Talk-out-the-side-of-my-fucking-mouth accent already? Anyone?

In ending, I just figured out that Walder Frey is played by HP's Filch, and Osha, Bran's wildling friend, is played by Nymphadora Tonks.

And Tyrion Lannister is played in Season 5 by Old Luke Skywalker:

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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1833 on: Apr 10, 2019, 06:01:49 AM »
Oh yea, and one more thing. I remember hearing a whole lot of bitching from feminists about Sansa's rape scene. So much so, that when I actually saw the scene, I wasn't even sure it was the right scene, because it was literally nothing worth crying about. I had to look it up online to make sure that the scene I had seen, which wasn't a big deal, was the same one that feminists had been screaming about.

So yea, feminists whining about nothing, but what's new?
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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1834 on: Apr 10, 2019, 08:39:33 PM »
Ha ha, I literally call this show Raep of Thrones.

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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1835 on: Apr 10, 2019, 09:30:50 PM »
I watched the first episode and realized it wasn't for me.  And now, hearing about the show X seasons later, I realize I was correct.

As usual.
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« Reply #1836 on: Apr 11, 2019, 01:28:42 PM »
Oh, something that bugged me. Back in season 2 I wondered how Bran got around the Bolton's siege of Winterfell and left without being spotted. Another thing that confused me this season was the aftermath of Hardhome's destruction. So Hardhome is on the coast of the ocean. The survivors board Stannis' fleet. So why... why did they just not use the fleet to get around the wall? Why did they go through the gate instead? The gate is hundreds of miles away from Hardhome.  What the fuck????

I can't explain all of this, and I'm not sure anyone can. There's a bunch of fucky hand-waved stuff around vast distances being travelled in relatively little time (in book, not so much). That probably at least partially explains some of that. And I think the catacombs had another exit or something? Been a while since I've read that part. Or they actually left before the siege.

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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1837 on: Apr 12, 2019, 08:29:56 PM »
I watched the first episode and realized it wasn't for me.  And now, hearing about the show X seasons later, I realize I was correct.

As usual.

Similar. I've watched clips of it and read lore because it initially looked interesting to me but I've never seen a full episode or read any of the books. I've never felt compelled to either. I'm not the audience for this.
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« Reply #1838 on: Apr 12, 2019, 10:52:13 PM »
I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I'm one of these bitter curmudgeons who read and enjoyed the books first, and fully embraced the show initially, only to do a complete 180 on the show once it began to severely deviate from the books.

I'm so done with the show. I don't give a fuck how it ends, because it doesn't fucking matter. It only matters that it is in fact ending, because now there's the possibility the author will finally finish writing the story as he sees it.

Not holding my breath.

Yeah, I'm a real Salty Sam about the whole thing.

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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1839 on: Apr 15, 2019, 11:59:50 PM »
Can you mention some of the worst offenders? Like deviations from the book that really chafed you?

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« Reply #1840 on: Apr 16, 2019, 05:23:13 PM »
I can't. There's too much. Basically they reached a point where they caught up with what had been published, and from then on I consider it nothing but pricey fan fiction. Sure, they make the claim that they've worked closely with George to realize his "creative vision", but you know damn well dude's gonna do his own shit, if he ever even bothers I mean.

Just... so many characters and scenes omitted or heavily altered. Theon's family in particular is totally shafted in the show, you'd be forgiven for thinking the Greyjoys are nothing more than an afterthought. And Theon, himself? Jesus Christ. After the torture he endured, no one who previously knew him is supposed to recognize him. The way Martin describes him in the books, he's pretty much Gollum at that point. Like, just completely fucked.

In the show they have to constantly remind you that he has no junk anymore because visibly he looks no worse for wear!

I'm sure someone somewhere has compiled a list of all the differences, they are legion.

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« Reply #1841 on: Apr 22, 2019, 09:57:00 AM »
The way Martin describes him in the books, he's pretty much Gollum at that point. Like, just completely fucked.


Is that surprising coming from someone who obviously got a lot of inspiration from LoTR?

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« Reply #1842 on: Apr 23, 2019, 08:16:41 AM »
I can't. There's too much. Basically they reached a point where they caught up with what had been published, and from then on I consider it nothing but pricey fan fiction. Sure, they make the claim that they've worked closely with George to realize his "creative vision", but you know damn well dude's gonna do his own shit, if he ever even bothers I mean.

Just... so many characters and scenes omitted or heavily altered. Theon's family in particular is totally shafted in the show, you'd be forgiven for thinking the Greyjoys are nothing more than an afterthought. And Theon, himself? Jesus Christ. After the torture he endured, no one who previously knew him is supposed to recognize him. The way Martin describes him in the books, he's pretty much Gollum at that point. Like, just completely fucked.

In the show they have to constantly remind you that he has no junk anymore because visibly he looks no worse for wear!

I'm sure someone somewhere has compiled a list of all the differences, they are legion.

He is recognized by someone in the books, but only just barely.

Is that surprising coming from someone who obviously got a lot of inspiration from LoTR?

It feels almost meaningless to say a fantasy author was inspired by Tolkien's work. They all were, even if indirectly.

This fan wiki has a list of changes, I'm sure it's not entirely complete as there are of course entire storylines and characters that aren't in the show: https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Differences_between_books_and_TV_series
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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1843 on: Apr 24, 2019, 08:46:11 AM »
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And Theon, himself? Jesus Christ. After the torture he endured, no one who previously knew him is supposed to recognize him. The way Martin describes him in the books, he's pretty much Gollum at that point. Like, just completely fucked.

In the show they have to constantly remind you that he has no junk anymore because visibly he looks no worse for wear!

Nah, that's just tv/movie style scarring: where someone can't be too fucked up because then they'd be too ugly for tv. Not for censorship reasons but purely aesthetics. Happens all the time. Like in that flop Mortal Engines. The lead girl's face is supposed to be messed up and they turned her scarring into this faint red line so she was still conventionally pretty.

In Avatar the Last Airbender, I remember being surprised they gave Zuko such an ugly-looking scar. I think they got away with it in a kid's show because he was a villain at first and cartoon villains have more leeway to be ugly. If he were a hero character at the start, I bet Nickelodeon would've made them change something.

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« Reply #1844 on: Apr 30, 2019, 03:59:13 PM »
Reek would definitely not be able to wield a bow or sword or spear, though. I'm pretty sure about that. Not effectively, at any rate.

GOT season 8 feels halfway decent but a bit like fan-fiction. Which it certainly is at this point but still. I love some of the stuff they have done but feel like there's not much suspense for main characters anymore and that they aren't willing to take the risks that Martin was willing to do (like killing the guy that seemed like the main character way back in book / season 1).
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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1845 on: May 11, 2019, 12:20:53 AM »
Can we talk spoilers for season 8? Because I got someone that made me go "WTF" but it's a spoiler.

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« Reply #1846 on: May 11, 2019, 12:22:02 AM »
And I have all the books so far and am actually waiting for the show to be over to read them. That way the books being better don't ruin the show for me.

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« Reply #1847 on: May 11, 2019, 01:30:30 AM »
Are you talking like shit that has yet to air? Because I don't want to know about that. I'm fine talking about what's happened so far.

Which is GARBAGE. Garbage has happened so far.

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« Reply #1848 on: May 11, 2019, 09:45:02 PM »
No stuff that already happened, but maybe not everyone has seen yet. I don't want to know the unaired stuff either.


My thing is that when Jon found out he was fucking his Aunt, his first reaction was "Ned Stark lied to me" and then Dany found out she was fucking her Nephew, her first reaction was "You have a legitimate claim to the throne." Know I don't know if things work different in Westros, but neither of those things would be the first thing that crossed my mind when I found out I had fucked my Aunt unknowingly.

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« Reply #1849 on: May 14, 2019, 07:27:03 PM »
I'll be glad when the shit's over. People are all like, "you don't watch it? EVERYBODY watches it!" And my reply is always that everybody was reading fucking Twilight once upon a time, too, and I never touched the shit. I stopped with the first episode (after buying the first season bluray, GOD DAMN IT) and never regretted it.
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« Reply #1850 on: May 14, 2019, 10:55:13 PM »
Well I wasn't nearly as pissed about the last episode as everyone else seems to be...so....


and other then GOT I'm watching the What We Do in the Shadows tv show on FX. It's pretty fucking good.

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« Reply #1851 on: May 15, 2019, 12:54:26 PM »
I feel like the things that happened in the last episode of GOT were always expected to happen in some sort of way but the journey to get there doesn't feel like it took the right paths, and so the episode felt very dissatisfying.
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« Reply #1852 on: May 15, 2019, 12:54:42 PM »
Also, Doom Patrol. I'm watching Doom Patrol. It's fucking great.
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« Reply #1853 on: May 15, 2019, 04:42:49 PM »
Doom Patrol is fun, but I'm still irked as I try to understand why nobody ages in that show. Well, other than Cliff, which is obvious. Half of them are, like, 80-something years old. Except for Niles, who's well over a hundred, and Cliff who's 98% physically dead and Cyborg who only halfway is.
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« Reply #1854 on: May 16, 2019, 11:49:09 PM »
Do you fans think they should've just stopped? I'm just thinking if I were a fan of a book series that got turned into a show, I'd want them to stop when they ran out of shit to adapt. Wrap up what you got and hopefully everyone will be available for a mini-series whenever the author finishes it. But oh, well, gotta milk that sweet cash cow, I guess.

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« Reply #1855 on: May 18, 2019, 06:34:33 PM »
Nah, stopping was never an option. HBO got the rights and they were going to do whatever they wanted. Hell, they still have all those spin-offs planned, but good luck if they leave everyone with a bad taste in their mouths after this finale.

On a brighter note, I can't stop watching this:


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« Reply #1856 on: May 19, 2019, 07:57:10 PM »
Hey, it might be fun to see them St*r WarzzZZ themselves: how long does it take to get a guaranteed money-maker and break its fucking kneecaps? I give them two tries at the most.

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« Reply #1857 on: May 19, 2019, 08:00:49 PM »
Ha, that banana video. You didn't even peel it, bro.

Edit: Holy fuck, I just checked out that channel. Shaggy Ball Z is fucking perfection. Holy shit.  :laugh:
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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1858 on: May 20, 2019, 01:17:50 AM »
Man, I totally skipped that because I hated when that Shaggy meme was circulating, but this was actually really good.

I will say, I'm satisfied with the way GoT ended. After that second-to-last episode, I fully expected to loathe the conclusion. It was fine, though.

SPOILS AND SPOILS

I'll be an anal retentive nitpicker and ask what the point of the Night's Watch is now that the White Wankers are vanquished and the Wildlings are essentially allies of the North. But maybe that was the point? Like, they misled Grey Worm et al. into believing Jon would be serving a sentence when really he's now free to roam up there.

Also, Bran's offhanded remark about finding Drogon would seem to imply he's able to Warg dragons, which begs the question, why didn't he ever try that before?

Whatever.

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Re: [TV, etc.] What are you watching?!
« Reply #1859 on: May 20, 2019, 11:23:04 AM »
Don't worry. The twelve spin-offs/prequels/sequels will create so many of their own unanswered questions and gaping plotholes that you'll completely forget your prior concerns.