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Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« on: Nov 12, 2009, 05:44:24 AM »
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/prof_busted_in_columbia_gal_punch_JmsXQ3NzaAt8uG6uUySGTN

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A prominent Columbia architecture professor punched a female university employee in the face at a Harlem bar during a heated argument about race relations, cops said yesterday.

Police busted Lionel McIntyre, 59, for assault yesterday after his bruised victim, Camille Davis, filed charges.

McIntyre and Davis, who works as a production manager in the school's theater department, are both regulars at Toast, a popular university bar on Broadway and 125th Street, sources said.

The professor, who is black, had been engaged in a fiery discussion about "white privilege" with Davis, who is white, and another male regular, who is also white, Friday night at 10:30 when fists started flying, patrons said.

McIntyre, who is known as "Mac" at the bar, shoved Davis, and when the other patron and a bar employee tried to break it up, the prof slugged Davis in the face, witnesses said.

"The punch was so loud, the kitchen workers in the back heard it over all the noise," bar back Richie Velez, 28, told The Post. "I was on my way over when he punched Camille and she fell on top of me."

The other patron involved in the dispute said McIntyre then took a swing at him after he yelled, "You don't hit a woman!"

"He knocked the glasses right off my face," said the man, who would only give his first name as "Shannon." "The punch came out of nowhere. Mac was talking to us about white privilege and what I was doing about it -- apparently I wasn't doing enough."

McIntyre had squabbled with Davis several weeks earlier over issues involving race, witnesses said. As soon as the professor threw the punch Friday, server Rob Dalton and another employee tossed him out.

"It was a real sucker punch," Dalton said. "Camille's a great lady, always nice to everybody, and doesn't deserve anything like this."

Davis was spotted wearing sunglasses yesterday to conceal the black eye. Reached at her Columbia office, she declined to comment on the alleged attack.

McIntyre was released without bail at his arraignment last night.

"It was a very unfortunate event," he said afterwards. "I didn't mean for it to explode the way it did."

How is this not top news? Why isn't this being classed as racist and a hate crime? White privilege, lol. Black Professor hitting a white member of staff while a black man occupies the white house is funny, given the fact that she wasn't a professor and Hillary had no chance at reaching that office. There's much more of a gender privilege.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #1 on: Nov 12, 2009, 09:53:52 AM »
It's a bullshit crime. I'm sure hitting a woman will go far in supporting his cause.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #2 on: Nov 12, 2009, 10:42:22 AM »
There is no such thing as reverse racism. Racism is racism.

And wouldn't it be both a hate crime and racism?

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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 12, 2009, 01:17:56 PM »
In my book, yes.

But the legal system will probably only see it as a hate crime if a white man hits a black woman.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 12, 2009, 03:09:12 PM »
The whole hate crime idea is a crock of bull. Crime is crime...does it really matter what the motivation is? No, it doesn't. Treat all of it the same: harshly.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 12, 2009, 03:55:23 PM »
Is the bolding yours, Derrick?  I see nothing in that article to support the implication that he was released without bail just because he was black.

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There is no such thing as reverse racism.

Yeah, I mean, wouldn't the reverse just be... well, non-racism?

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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #6 on: Nov 12, 2009, 07:00:24 PM »
Reverse-racism is actually better described as a counter-response in kind.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #7 on: Nov 12, 2009, 07:29:39 PM »
Is the bolding yours, Derrick?  I see nothing in that article to support the implication that he was released without bail just because he was black.

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There is no such thing as reverse racism.

Yeah, I mean, wouldn't the reverse just be... well, non-racism?

The bolding was mine, for emphasis. This story is another example of the endemic problem of white guilt and white paternalism that is going to do more harm than good in the long run. The story was no where on CNN.com, and the racial websites of course took their own sides. Racism is racism, but reverse racism is a symbol of paternalism toward minorities. The people who shelve these stories are white, not black or any other ethnicity. It's shelved because it raises questions that most whites are either afraid of, or that they are so convinced don't matter that they are irrelevant.

The bigger question is how this ties into the professor earlier who bitched out the cop who was responding to a legit call. I know the black supremicist type, I've read their history books. It's an obsolete thought in American, African, and Atlantic studies (only hacks who are convinced every white person knows someone in the KKK calls it 'African-American' studies, an African American is someone who emmigrates from Africa and becomes naturalized) yet this thought persists in black academia. It's endemic, considering the hatred present within these people and the papers and books they publish.

Tell me if a White man hitting a black subordinate would have garnered the same reaction and a lack of bail? Tell me it wouldn't be non-existant on cnn.com and msnbc.com.

Eh, it was early anyways. This shit does nothing but foster fear, ignorance, and stagnation. Without stories like this, the media will only report white-on-black crime and perpetuate that racism can only be performed by whites afraid of a slave-baby.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #8 on: Nov 13, 2009, 01:40:36 PM »
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It's shelved because it raises questions that most whites are either afraid of, or that they are so convinced don't matter that they are irrelevant.

Sounds like your problem.  Ha ha, no, no, I kid.  I see what you're saying in your post, but I don't see evidence to support the claim that he got off because of white guilt.  Isn't it reverse?  Doesn't this type of stuff happen all the time, people getting released without bail?  Do you really consider a man punching a woman in the face because he lost his tempter to be newsworthy? 

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Tell me if a White man hitting a black subordinate would have garnered the same reaction and a lack of bail? Tell me it wouldn't be non-existant on cnn.com and msnbc.com.

Isn't THAT white guilt?  Colored folks don't have majority control over the justice system or the media.  I don't think white guilt is hiding anything in this instance, I think it's just not thrusting it forward into the spotlight. 

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 13, 2009, 04:41:12 PM »
The NAACP would be in an outrage if the reverse of this story happened.

As it is, they probably didn't read past, "black man hits white woman."
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #10 on: Nov 13, 2009, 10:39:11 PM »
All I see is a jackass who hit a chick for no rational reason. I don't care if said jackass is black, white, or polka-dotted; I also don't care if his racial hang-ups were at the root of it. He knew better than to do it, he lost his temper, and he should pay for it on that basis, but no other.  Charge him with assault and battery and leave the hate crime BS out of it.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 14, 2009, 12:52:12 PM »
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It's shelved because it raises questions that most whites are either afraid of, or that they are so convinced don't matter that they are irrelevant.

Sounds like your problem.  Ha ha, no, no, I kid.  I see what you're saying in your post, but I don't see evidence to support the claim that he got off because of white guilt.  Isn't it reverse?  Doesn't this type of stuff happen all the time, people getting released without bail?  Do you really consider a man punching a woman in the face because he lost his tempter to be newsworthy? 

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Tell me if a White man hitting a black subordinate would have garnered the same reaction and a lack of bail? Tell me it wouldn't be non-existant on cnn.com and msnbc.com.

Isn't THAT white guilt?  Colored folks don't have majority control over the justice system or the media.  I don't think white guilt is hiding anything in this instance, I think it's just not thrusting it forward into the spotlight. 
It is white guilt and paternalism. These cases aren't presented as is along with other 'racial' stories, and it does a diservice to American cultures. What we have is a society that makes a big deal of white-on-black offenses and strays from the reverse. What results is a black population convinced every white person is in the KKK and waiting to do something, and a white population wondering why the guy breaking into the house on the security system commercials is always a white guy and never a black guy.

I wonder if Obama will call the woman an idiot that acted stupidly.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #12 on: Nov 14, 2009, 12:52:44 PM »
The NAACP would be in an outrage if the reverse of this story happened.

As it is, they probably didn't read past, "black man hits white woman."
Al Sharpton probably laughed. Then he stuck a thumb in a woman's butt.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #13 on: Nov 15, 2009, 09:58:13 PM »
All I see is a jackass who hit a chick for no rational reason. I don't care if said jackass is black, white, or polka-dotted; I also don't care if his racial hang-ups were at the root of it. He knew better than to do it, he lost his temper, and he should pay for it on that basis, but no other.  Charge him with assault and battery and leave the hate crime BS out of it.

QFT.

The NAACP would be in an outrage if the reverse of this story happened.

As it is, they probably didn't read past, "black man hits white woman."

Well, they are "for the Advancement of Colored People".  In all fairness, their focus is on colored people in trouble or in the midst of injustice.  They aren't likely to do a story on some angry guy doing a disservice to their cause.

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« Reply #14 on: Nov 15, 2009, 10:12:09 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 15, 2009, 11:16:06 PM »
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #16 on: Nov 16, 2009, 08:45:24 PM »
With their dingleberries.

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« Reply #17 on: Nov 16, 2009, 09:26:47 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: Nov 17, 2009, 12:23:50 AM »
Whether this is newsworthy or not is only relevant in the context that the reverse would be deemed newsworthy.  Which is part of Tom's point.

The whole hate crime concept is retarded, but if this isn't tried as one then it's biased and hypocritical as well.

If he does get hit with a hate crime, at least then this will probably get some coverage.

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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #19 on: Nov 17, 2009, 05:43:42 AM »
It's buried, never to see the light of day. Just like the 4 marines that killed their CO, but not before raping his wife and killing her in front of him. Why? They were in an interracial relationship, and the Marine subordinates didn't like it. They staged it as a robbery but were too dumb to not get caught (as most criminals are).

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/04/03/2009-04-03_grim_twist_in_tortureslay_of_marine_sgt_.html

Just sick, but again it was never reported. Yet! Nappy headed hoes demanded the airwaves and print for months.
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« Reply #20 on: Nov 18, 2009, 05:22:03 PM »
Yep, never heard about that.

This really is ridiculous.  I hope all of these stories are compiled and brought to light someday on a discovery channel special.  Of course whoever makes the special will be immediately scorned as a racist for doing so.

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« Reply #21 on: Nov 18, 2009, 05:46:34 PM »
It won't be on Discovery. Maybe on Fox News.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #22 on: Nov 18, 2009, 07:15:52 PM »
We all know the news has fucked up priorities anyway.  Hell, yesterday, I must've seen eight different clips on the same channel about a cat that climbed on a police officer while he was issuing a ticket.  "Look at that cat" "Cat climbs on officer" "A cat climbs on police officer"...  Was there nothing else, really?  Pretty damn sad we don't hear more about these types of stories.

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Whether this is newsworthy or not is only relevant in the context that the reverse would be deemed newsworthy.  Which is part of Tom's point.

I know most of you will disagree, but I don't even consider the reverse newsworthy.  At least not any further than a blurb.  [That other story Tom posted, however, definetely should've been plastered everywhere.]

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« Reply #23 on: Nov 18, 2009, 07:58:18 PM »
I'm not saying that the reverse actually is newsworthy I'm saying it would be deemed so...which is sad.

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« Reply #24 on: Nov 18, 2009, 08:07:36 PM »
Still, all this beats swine flu!
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« Reply #25 on: Nov 18, 2009, 09:40:22 PM »
I'd rather watch a cat climb on five police officers then have to hear anything about any kind of flu again.
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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #26 on: Nov 19, 2009, 02:55:27 AM »
What if the police officer had swine flu?  Also, he appeared to be white but the cat was BLACK.  Discuss.

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« Reply #27 on: Nov 19, 2009, 05:34:10 AM »
Goddamned Liberal media. Or is it right-wing media diluting race relations?!

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« Reply #28 on: Nov 19, 2009, 04:17:16 PM »
link to cat cop climb plox

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Re: Hate Crime or Reverse Racism?
« Reply #29 on: Nov 21, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »
Damn you, IDE, I was looking for a link and came across this sad shit.  Fuck you.  FUCK YOU.  *sob*  Here's *sniff* your link, bitch.  http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/weird/cat_climbs_atop_traffic_cop