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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #120 on: Jul 12, 2008, 07:24:21 PM »
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #121 on: Jul 13, 2008, 09:59:54 PM »
*Runs in with a Bullhorn about to talk about the Conservative agenda but that everyone else did it for him.*


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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #122 on: Jul 14, 2008, 05:50:53 AM »
If the server's taking too long, then don't tip him.  *rimshot*


Seriously, I don't know what you're talking about.  Maybe when you ran in, you made it hiccup.

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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #123 on: Jul 14, 2008, 10:07:17 AM »
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #124 on: Jul 23, 2008, 12:12:07 PM »
I can't remember if this was the thread where we were debating the oil crisis, but I've found some interesting things since then.

First off, gas is at an amazing $3.90 around here, where just a few weeks ago it was at $4.25.

Second off, at a festival, I looked at Saturn's hybrid SUV, the Vue, which has a listed MPG of 25-30. This proves we have the technology to make even large SUVs and trucks at least as economical as your average car, it's just the large car companies aren't investing enough to apply the technology.

I also read an article in an old magazine from 1995 or so about a technology that saved gas by shutting off the engine while the engine idles and while coasting or stopping. The vehicle was a VW Golf Diesel and got about 60 mpg. The article stated that this technology would not be popular in the US unless there was a major gas crisis. Uh, you mean like the one we're having now?

(The irony is the magazine also announced the invention of plasma tvs and small satellite dishes. "Soon everyone could be watching cable channels from a small dish on the side of their houses, on a thin TV mounted on a wall like a picture frame". ORLY?)

The technology exists. We just need to apply it.

Also, I saw a Subaru hatchback at the mall that got 20 mpg. I think it was a typo. I hope to god it was a typo, the car wasn't much bigger than a Honda Fit.
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #125 on: Jul 24, 2008, 11:50:19 PM »
I can't remember if this was the thread where we were debating the oil crisis, but I've found some interesting things since then.

It was.

First off, gas is at an amazing $3.90 around here, where just a few weeks ago it was at $4.25.

The only thing that has happened since then was George Bush's ultimately ineffectual but symbolically powerful revocation of the executive order (instituted by his father) that prohibited drilling on the offshore continental shelf.  This matters little to nothing, as Congress hasn't revoked their own law prohibiting drilling there, but the threat of introducing new sources into the pipeline (which could come online in as little as a year in certain areas like the Gulf of Mexico) caused speculation on oil futures to react favorably. 

Second off, at a festival, I looked at Saturn's hybrid SUV, the Vue, which has a listed MPG of 25-30. This proves we have the technology to make even large SUVs and trucks at least as economical as your average car, it's just the large car companies aren't investing enough to apply the technology.

For the most part, the same tech used therein has been available since well before the Prius made it's splash...it just hadn't been applied to large trucks and SUVs before the Tahoe and, now, the Vue (my aunt has a regular Vue, and she hates it).  I'm not that thrilled about it, though, as I'd privately hoped this oil crunch would spell the end of those ass-ugly gas-guzzling mobile obstacles for car drivers.

I also read an article in an old magazine from 1995 or so about a technology that saved gas by shutting off the engine while the engine idles and while coasting or stopping. The vehicle was a VW Golf Diesel and got about 60 mpg. The article stated that this technology would not be popular in the US unless there was a major gas crisis. Uh, you mean like the one we're having now?

Ah, I remember the days when gas was a bit over a buck per gallon...nobody cared about how much milage their cars got because it just didn't matter.  It still wouldn't if there was enough being brought on the market...everything from gas to beanie babies to actual dollars get progressively cheaper when more is made available.  DRILL, MOTHERFUCKERS, DRILL!

But diesels have never been very popular in the U.S. for consumer vehicles.  Why? Historically speaking, there are several reasons: emissions standards (which aren't abrogated now because of biodiesel...regular old nasty diesel will still drive the majority of vehicles, even though it's less of a CO and CO2 emission than gasoline), its hell to start in cold weather, and they're noisy and inefficient at slower speeds (and you know how the government likes its double nickel speed limits).  But new designs are better now, making it a lot more attractive to American drivers.

But given the comparative cost per gallon of diesel in comparison to gasoline, it's still a gamble that it'll be popular enough to be worth the expense of U.S. production.  Time will tell.

(The irony is the magazine also announced the invention of plasma tvs and small satellite dishes. "Soon everyone could be watching cable channels from a small dish on the side of their houses, on a thin TV mounted on a wall like a picture frame". ORLY?)

It had to have been well before 1994, because that's the year DirecTV came out (I remember it well...I was one of the first to sign up for it when it was first solicited in 1993, and it cost $700 that I had to earn by cutting grass over two summers).

The technology exists. We just need to apply it.

And it needs to be produced in number conducive to making them affordable to most Americans...something VW has never been too prone to do.  But I agree: there are many things that can be done in concert to alleviate the problems we face.

Also, I saw a Subaru hatchback at the mall that got 20 mpg. I think it was a typo. I hope to god it was a typo, the car wasn't much bigger than a Honda Fit.

I don't think so...that all-wheel drive platform is like throwing gas down a well.
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #126 on: Jul 25, 2008, 11:52:17 AM »
For the most part, the same tech used therein has been available since well before the Prius made it's splash...it just hadn't been applied to large trucks and SUVs before the Tahoe and, now, the Vue (my aunt has a regular Vue, and she hates it).  I'm not that thrilled about it, though, as I'd privately hoped this oil crunch would spell the end of those ass-ugly gas-guzzling mobile obstacles for car drivers.

I'd like to see SUVs out of the picture as well, but as they will probably never disappear completely, they might as well make them use gas more efficiently.

I don't think so...that all-wheel drive platform is like throwing gas down a well.

So much for me buying an all wheel drive. I was considering getting a car like a Subaru that has a 4 wheel drive for the crazy winters we have around here, but I'd get one where you can turn off the back wheels unless you need them.


I remember when I said that the big 3 need to stop closing truck plants and instead convert them to small car plants, and you said that would cost a lot of money and time, and I never did respond to that.

I thought about it, and I realized that plants are "retooled" every time they come out with a new model vehicle, or significant changes to a currently produced model. The plants need to be flexible enough to, say, switch from making Escorts to making Focuses. Of course switching from one model of car to another, or even worse, switching from car to truck, can be expensive, but it's necessary for the US automakers to survive.


Ford Management agrees.

They're planning on converting two truck plants into small car plants to build small cars they normally sell in Europe. So in this case Ford's done two things right, they're converting a plant rather than shutting it down completely and causing thousands to lose their jobs, and they're bringing over small cars that have done well in Europe and selling them here as well.






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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #127 on: Jul 25, 2008, 10:12:07 PM »
I think his possibly dying 6 months into office is the least of everyone's problems.  Besides, Obama could win, suffer an aneurism the next day and then what happens?  Death can take anyone whenever it wants.

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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #128 on: Jul 26, 2008, 12:39:04 AM »
Life treats us differently, but death treats all the same.

Not that I wish death on anyone, but the best thing politically for me is for him to croak in office assuming he has a decent Veep, since I currently don't plan to vote for him.  I know Bobby Jindal was in the running for that, but I think he took his name out of the hat to focus on fixing Louisiana.  I figure he'll drop a big speech at the party convention, like Obama in '04, Clinton in '88, and Reagan in '76; and that'll mean he's the torch-bearer for the next round of presidential elections in '12 or '16.

He'd have been the youngest guy to put on the ticket (he's 37), and probably the most conservative (shore up the party base).  Plus he could have helped McCain them make inroads in the ethnic vote, as he's of Indian descent.  He wasn't a particular favorite of mine, given some of his past writings concerning Catholicism's doctrinal superiority over evangelical Christianity. But I admit that I admire those who intelligently step into theological debate.

I'm thinking the focus right now is on Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty or Alaska governor Sarah Palin.  The most obvious choice is Mitt Romney, but he wouldn't help McCain much, given that he (almost literally) couldn't buy votes in the primary, and the only state he could impact positively would be Michigan, but he'd probably help lose at least two and possibly three others.
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #129 on: Jul 26, 2008, 12:40:26 AM »
He'd never pick Romney. He'd really do best to pick Condie.
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #130 on: Jul 26, 2008, 11:56:27 AM »
Death never RSVPs.

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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #131 on: Jul 27, 2008, 08:48:03 AM »
Death never RSVPs.

Yea, I know.  I always run out of taco dip because of it.
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #132 on: Jul 31, 2008, 02:09:40 PM »
I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and realize that no one person in the last 200+ years has been able to discombobulate the country (though McCarthy tried).  I can't believe all of the cheering that the Knoxville nut has received from certain conservative sectors (not all of them - most are rightfully disgusted, no pun intended). 

Occasions such as this make me regret the demise of the classical education.   I answered one tirade yesterday in a break room regarding "liberals" (and quotation marks are because everyone seems to have a different definition of the term) destroying the country with a reference to how people should re-read Suetonius' "Lives of the Caesars" on occasion to put things in perspective, and got a blank stare.  Ironic considering the huge framed sheepskin from Columbia on his wall.  :-\
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #133 on: Aug 01, 2008, 10:44:58 AM »
$3.60 gas!   :raiseroof: :headbang: :hump: :nuriyes: :guitar: :poo: :flash: <-that guy flashes to my music  :joe:

This is celebration worthy.

If anyone really wants to blame anyone for the gas prices, according to studies I've read, the most profits don't go to the oil companies (although they get a lot of the profit). It's the people actually drilling the oil and shipping it out that get the most of the money. Why else do you think everyone in Dubai drives around in Escalades?
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #134 on: Aug 01, 2008, 11:53:43 AM »
$3.54.

Anyone beat that?

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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #135 on: Aug 02, 2008, 12:13:32 AM »
$3.499
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #136 on: Aug 02, 2008, 03:11:22 AM »
HAHA FUCK YOU ALL PEOPLE! WE HAVE CHAVEZ' OIL DOWN HERE!
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #137 on: Aug 02, 2008, 09:10:47 AM »
$3.499

what is that, something like $76,811.96 per gallon?
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #138 on: Aug 02, 2008, 09:45:32 AM »
HAHA FUCK YOU ALL PEOPLE! WE HAVE CHAVEZ' OIL DOWN HERE!
wait, what?

You like paying him? O.o

Well he's better than the Canadians we buy our oil from. >.< Still, we have much better roads.
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #139 on: Aug 03, 2008, 12:58:08 AM »

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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #140 on: Aug 04, 2008, 01:50:01 PM »
Don't get used to it.  There's a storm in the Gulf.  :-\ 
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« Reply #141 on: Aug 04, 2008, 09:35:49 PM »
I doubt it'll disrupt anything to any degree.  If it does, it'll be due to pure speculation, as it's extremely unlikely that it'll impact the oil rigs themselves, damage any refineries, or prevent transportation of gasoline from those refineries to distribution.

what is that, something like $76,811.96 per gallon?

No. 
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« Reply #142 on: Aug 05, 2008, 12:55:17 PM »
Lots of rain and occastional wind gusts, and no platform dangers, so no price spike.  The important thing is that I got a day off from work. ;D
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #143 on: Aug 05, 2008, 09:30:08 PM »
$3.42.

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« Reply #144 on: Aug 06, 2008, 02:23:18 PM »
I was on the Obama bandwagon, but if it's true about what I've heard, that he won't support offshore drilling or nuclear powet, I'm almost about to turn Republican and vote for McCane.



Or maybe I should just say fuck it, and vote for Phucking Heiress-Whore


O_O


Wow, Paris has a better energy plan than Bush, Obama, and McCane combined?!

Hold on a sec.... *checks Hell webcam and sees snow and frost*

That's what I thought.
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« Reply #145 on: Aug 06, 2008, 03:05:16 PM »
I don't know why anyone's worried about Obama being elected.  I'll give it six months before someone with a Stars and Bars in the back winder and about eight teeth picks him off from a tree.  Worry about who the VP might be.
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #146 on: Aug 07, 2008, 08:13:22 AM »
It unfortunately won't be Hillary. He has a major problem with women, probably because of his wife.
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« Reply #147 on: Aug 07, 2008, 12:37:02 PM »
On the way to lunch, I saw a guy with some McCain stickers and a "NOBAMA '08" one.  He also had a sticker reading "It's a JEEP thing - you wouldn't understand!" 

On his red Chevy Silverado pickup.

Oh boy.... :alien:
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Re: "Hope + Change = Presidency"
« Reply #148 on: Aug 07, 2008, 10:35:53 PM »
All I have to say is if Obama wins every black person better simultaneously stop holding a grudge against white people.  Affirmative action should be abolished the moment he takes office.  I want all my screen plays ideas optioned instead of some minority chick.  I'll also be given a staff writer position on a television show.

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« Reply #149 on: Aug 08, 2008, 12:36:36 PM »
I think I've figured something out after seeing an ad for pickup trucks in an old National Geographic.


Truck from the 80s:




Truck from this year:





Is it just me or American's dicks getting smaller? Maybe it's something in the water? Or Americans getting fatter in general.
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