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Title: Transformers 2
Post by: Wickedly Yours E on Jun 25, 2009, 12:52:01 PM
Went to the midnight showing.

My thoughts on it without spoilers:
It's basically a typical Michael Bay movie. You go for the explosions and action. The story is superfluous and shallow and spotty, which works with Transformers, I believe, because ultimately? You go to see giant robots kicking each others ass, blowing shit up, and doing cool car-to-robot-to-car tricks. You don't really care why they're doing it...you just want to see them fight because it's giant robots. This movie delivers that in spades. There's like three times as much Robot Fighting as the first movie, and it's a good...thirty or forty minutes longer? Something like that.

There was some human-related parts that were long, unneccesary, what-have you, but that's okay because it usually ended up playing out into a major fight. The parents were in there, Sam still scrabbles around, and Megan Fox has huge freakin' lips.



My thoughts WITH Spoilers: Spoilers people. There are spoilers up in here. Spoilers. Many Spoilers. Get over the Spoilers.


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Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jun 25, 2009, 02:09:57 PM
Well story is important to me. If I just liked Giant Robots that changed into thing fighting each other then I wouldn't care if it was the Transformer or the Gobots.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jun 25, 2009, 02:15:35 PM
You're going to be first in line July 4th, right?  ;D
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jun 25, 2009, 03:38:46 PM
No interest in this, I'm more interested in the wierd ass cancer flick.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jun 25, 2009, 07:32:52 PM
I'm not going as of now.  I'm still trying to determine whether my expectations should be low or non-existent.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Wickedly Yours E on Jun 25, 2009, 08:22:35 PM
July 4th is what?
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jun 25, 2009, 10:24:59 PM
non-existent is the only way to not be disappointed. I could proably go see it and walk out and go "Well it was exactly what I expected." but I'm not paying for something I expect to be a POS.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jun 26, 2009, 12:31:15 PM
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July 4th is what?

It may just be local - a couple of theaters here are going to show the 1986 animated movie for the July 4th 1st show. We might go - I'd rather see that on the big screen again.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jun 27, 2009, 09:05:07 AM
non-existent is the only way to not be disappointed. I could proably go see it and walk out and go "Well it was exactly what I expected." but I'm not paying for something I expect to be a POS.

Sometimes we're too much alike.

Fuck a Bay.  I saw this movie already: It was called "Transformers" and it sucked.  It was "The Island" with less story and more robots.  If story doesn't matter, I think they shouldn't even pretend to have a story.  Just have the robots fighting because they want to. 

Any comment on this?  http://www.philly.com/inquirer/magazine/20090626_Sideshow__Racist_robots_in__Transformers__.html
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: The D on Jun 27, 2009, 02:05:44 PM

Any comment on this?  http://www.philly.com/inquirer/magazine/20090626_Sideshow__Racist_robots_in__Transformers__.html

I wouldn't be surprised. In the first movie, the only autobot that died was Token Minority Autobot Jazz (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackDudeDiesFirst) (they even have it mentioned in the article!)
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: MegatronYES on Jun 28, 2009, 12:47:26 AM
Well I adored it, I was hollering the whole time.

Yet I'd still agree that a 23% on Rottentomatoes is fair.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jun 28, 2009, 02:09:39 AM
And I'm getting tired of Megan Fox too. I mean I know 5 years from now she is going to be appearing in some Sci-Fi Orginal movie with Judd Nelson.  You know, something like "Killer Mamoth 2: The tusking! Staring Transformers Megan Fox" but I'm tired of this chick already. I don't think she is hot...she look greasy and like she doesn't shower enough. I just kinda want her to go away now.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jun 28, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
Daily Show had a story on her man-thumbs.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: MegatronYES on Jun 28, 2009, 09:13:39 PM
I agree, Megan Fox looks like a shiny Barbie-universe character.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jun 28, 2009, 10:07:11 PM
Never found Megan Fox that hot. I never found Angelia hot either. They're both 'certain time' hotties. The other chick that was on the talk show rounds, now she was hot. The terminator-esque chick. Much better looking than the terminator chick from the tv show.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jun 28, 2009, 10:20:18 PM
You should chell your pants to be sure you still have a dick.  Only thing she needs is someone to tell her to zip her lip and unzip her pants.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jun 28, 2009, 10:54:21 PM
Not really. I normally like brunettes even, but she's not that banging. Like I said in another thread, gimme Selena Gomez and her hotASS friend Demi.

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Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jun 29, 2009, 01:07:03 AM
You're really starting to worry me with this Selena Gomez/Demi thing. Besides you really want Jonas sloppy seconds?
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jun 29, 2009, 11:46:03 AM
And lusting after Selena Gomez before July 22, 2010 officially makes you a pedophile. Congratulations!  :hump:
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jun 29, 2009, 02:03:58 PM
You're really starting to worry me with this Selena Gomez/Demi thing. Besides you really want Jonas sloppy seconds?
Since all three are gay, all I have to worry about is them having much better fashion sense.

And lusting after Selena Gomez before July 22, 2010 officially makes you a pedophile. Congratulations!  :hump:
I CAN'T BELIEVE I WON! I don't even know who to thank. Really, Teen Disney just parading their hot jailbait ass around really contributed to this win. I'm still pulling for you, Brenda Song!
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jun 29, 2009, 10:53:39 PM
I'd do Brenda Song, but I think she is of age.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jun 30, 2009, 05:52:05 AM
She is. She's a close third, but I prefer latinas.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jun 30, 2009, 11:05:38 AM
My brunette d'jour is Michelle Ryan as she appears in the Doctor Who Easter special.   I hope her character becomes the new companion.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jun 30, 2009, 10:39:21 PM
Daily Show had a story on her man-thumbs.

You mean her toe thumbs.  :lol:

The other chick that was on the talk show rounds, now she was hot. The terminator-esque chick. Much better looking than the terminator chick from the tv show.

What "other chick" are you talking about?

I think Megan Fox is kinda hot but she IS kinda "greasy" too when I think about it.

You should chell your pants to be sure you still have a dick.  Only thing she needs is someone to tell her to zip her lip and unzip her pants.

Pfft, yeah.  I can't stand it when she opens her mouth and, you know, says something.  Just shut-up and look pretty.

Demi's kinda cute but that Selena Gomez frays my nerves.  She could very well be a sweetie pie IRL but in everything I've seen her in, she's an annoying little bitch.  To be fair, I've only seem Demi in bits of "Camp Rock" [more like "Camp Manufactured-Pop"] so for all I know she could be a brat in all of her roles, too.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 01, 2009, 06:13:04 AM
Kinda greasy? There's something about her that is just... egh.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 01, 2009, 06:36:37 AM
Her

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Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 01, 2009, 03:56:13 PM
Decent.  Who is she?
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 01, 2009, 07:56:40 PM
No idea, but I like her more than Megan Fox.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Sam on Jul 02, 2009, 11:27:23 AM
I ţink she's some Australian soap opera actress.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 02, 2009, 11:55:42 AM
it was ok for what it was but you cant tell whats happening in the fights that clearly they had to use slow mo to point out that something cool was happening
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 03, 2009, 01:59:20 PM
The difference between her and megan fox is marginal at best.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 03, 2009, 02:01:07 PM
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php?page=1 (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php?page=1)

that sums the movie up nicely
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 03, 2009, 10:46:37 PM
I saw that line as "bonus robs Transformers 2 Fags" at first since it was underlined and I couldn't tell it was a Q at first.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 03, 2009, 11:07:04 PM
Ok...after reading that I'm glad I didn't see this movie. It sounds like a total cluster fuck. Good thing they didn't use that old Cartoon or comic story cause those would have been too silly. :finger:
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 04, 2009, 03:49:50 AM
Wow, I knew it was a POS but this is somehow beyond that.  Like Super Saiyan POS 3.  A robot scrotum?
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Sam on Jul 06, 2009, 10:18:58 AM
Ok...after reading that I'm glad I didn't see this movie. It sounds like a total cluster fuck. Good thing they didn't use that old Cartoon or comic story cause those would have been too silly. :finger:

What?  Đis plot IS like it was taken directly from đe cartoon.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 06, 2009, 01:08:01 PM
Well I don't have any Season 3 on DVD, but I'm pretty sure the Matrix of Leadership was never the key to a doomsday weapon and Megatron never worked for a guy called the Fallen.


But I'm sure someone is going to tell me that G.I.Joe: Rise of Cobra is just like the toon too, because I like the toon, but think that movie is going to worse then this one.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 06, 2009, 04:52:01 PM
The GI Joe movie was so bad they stopped screenings and scrambled to recut the movie and alter the plot.

On it's way to join Gigli.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Sam on Jul 06, 2009, 05:27:10 PM
Well I don't have any Season 3 on DVD, but I'm pretty sure the Matrix of Leadership was never the key to a doomsday weapon and Megatron never worked for a guy called the Fallen.


But I'm sure someone is going to tell me that G.I.Joe: Rise of Cobra is just like the toon too, because I like the toon, but think that movie is going to worse then this one.

I'm not saying it's drawn word-for-word from some episode, but it certainly feel đe same.

Doomsday weapon?  Check.
Old characters pushed into đe background or left out so new characters can get đe spotlight?  Check.
Wacky racial stereotypes?  Check.
"Decepticons retreat!"?  Check.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 06, 2009, 07:55:49 PM
I guess we just differ on the opinon of what "Feels the same" is. 
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 06, 2009, 10:22:51 PM
Wow, I knew it was a POS but this is somehow beyond that.  Like Super Saiyan POS 3.  A robot scrotum?

Yep, Devastator has balls.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 06, 2009, 10:47:31 PM
How many doomsday scenarios were there in the original show?  The only notable ones I can think about was from The Ultimate Doom, Vector Sigma's key, a hate plague, and an overloading plasma energy chamber, and all of which involved different plot dynamics.

Not to mention that I have no recollection of Decepticles or pot brownies making any appearances.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 06, 2009, 11:28:32 PM
The Ultimate Doom was awesome. They should have made that into a movie.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 07, 2009, 12:42:03 AM
How many doomsday scenarios were there in the original show?  The only notable ones I can think about was from The Ultimate Doom, Vector Sigma's key, a hate plague, and an overloading plasma energy chamber, and all of which involved different plot dynamics.

Not to mention that I have no recollection of Decepticles or pot brownies making any appearances.

But they did get high on energon once.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 07, 2009, 11:26:27 AM
The GI Joe movie was so bad they stopped screenings and scrambled to recut the movie and alter the plot.

On it's way to join Gigli.

Sienna Miller blows.  Cute as a button, but whoever casted her as the Baroness needs to be shot multiple times in the face.

According to Wikipedia:
Spoiler (hover to show)

Re: Cobra Commander, according to slashfilm:
Spoiler (hover to show)

Nothing against cartoons because you people know I love them, but a fucking toon should be the easiest thing to adapt.  Especially shit with a preset fucking formula like G.I.Joe and Transformers.  Why raging hormones, idiotic attempts at humor, stupid relationship, and overly complicated plots suddenly take center stage in this shit is beyond me.  In fact, they should just steal directly from the cartoon.  Take a couple of loosely related or similar episodes and throw them together into a movie.  It's been twenty years.  Not enough people will remember for it to matter.

Sienna Miller looks awkward and stupid.  Especially with the damn sunglasses!

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Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jul 07, 2009, 12:24:09 PM
I don't get the casting either, but I have seen better shots with the glasses and her hair straight and dark brunette instead of poofy brown.  Maybe this was a wardrobe fitting.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 07, 2009, 12:34:14 PM
*Sigh* at least the MOTU movie is in limbo at the moment. If they make it like these I'd just rather it never get made at all. I'm kinda hoping it passes into the hands of someone that actually gives a shit, you know unlike Transformers and G.I.Joe.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Sam on Jul 07, 2009, 04:36:14 PM
For G.I. Joe to work, you really need to camp it up.  I don't like G.I. Joe because it features a bunch of identically clad super-soldiers, I like it because it's an elite military force đat's apparently composed of people đat wore whatever đe fuck đey wanted to work đat day.

edit: And if "doomsday device" is too limiting, change it to "device to extract a bunch of energy and fuck over đe humans"
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 07, 2009, 07:34:05 PM
That bitch isn't baroness.

That shit about CC is bullshit.

I want to punch a baby.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 07, 2009, 10:03:29 PM
A black baby? You racist. RACIST!

I'm just waiting for the new LotR movies. I hope they do the Silmarillion with the same CG as Beowulf.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 07, 2009, 10:38:01 PM
People talked about how Watchmen was unfilmable?  Disagree!  Silmarillion is the very definition of unfilmable.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 08, 2009, 09:16:21 AM
Not if done in serial with the Beowulf technology. If they can turn fat Ray Winstone into a svelt warrior, anything is possible.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jul 08, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
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Silmarillion is the very definition of unfilmable. 

That bitch was damn near unreadable.  Not a good sign for something that needs a script.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Sam on Jul 08, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
I loved the hell out of đat book, but it's not a tight, concise story.  It's a history book.  You could MAYBE get away wiţ doing đe story of Turin or of Beren and Luthien, but even đose require tons of backstory to make any sense.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 08, 2009, 12:53:47 PM
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Silmarillion is the very definition of unfilmable. 

That bitch was damn near unreadable.  Not a good sign for something that needs a script.

Oh yeah...I was wishing for singing Hobbits about a 1/3 of the way through it.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 08, 2009, 05:42:34 PM
Let me add that I loved the Silmarillion as well as several of its ancillary books.  But I can see no way of filming that outside of some sort of television series or something that would be equally disappointing.  Plus, I'm afraid that making it where non-Ringers would give a crap about any of it would be an insurmountable task, and doing so might make it unwatchable for those of us who would care about it. 
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 08, 2009, 09:28:38 PM
I could do it if paid enough.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Sam on Jul 09, 2009, 10:20:16 AM
No, no you really couldn't.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 09, 2009, 11:07:43 AM
Oh, I could. Get me the funding, and your minds will be blown.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jul 09, 2009, 12:06:11 PM
I smell Stick Figure Theatre and an untracable Antiguan bank account as the result.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 09, 2009, 12:55:24 PM
For G.I. Joe to work, you really need to camp it up.  I don't like G.I. Joe because it features a bunch of identically clad super-soldiers, I like it because it's an elite military force đat's apparently composed of people đat wore whatever đe fuck đey wanted to work đat day.

edit: And if "doomsday device" is too limiting, change it to "device to extract a bunch of energy and fuck over đe humans"

I'd like them to "camp it up" to be comparable to the toon but I think Hollywood has no restraint.  They'll either make it too serious or they'll make it too goofy.  And then we'll have more than one Wayans in it if you catch my drift.

I'm kinda wondering why they didn't just have this giant fanboy contest to help promote the movie.  Like have fans vote for their favorite Joes to be in the movie.  I just don't know about some of those Joes they chose.  I mean, we all could've lived without Covergirl.  Sheesh.

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Silmarillion is the very definition of unfilmable. 

That bitch was damn near unreadable.  Not a good sign for something that needs a script.

Ha, I couldn't even get past the Hobbit.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 09, 2009, 01:15:47 PM
Because no one wants GI Joe. It was born from 'OMG TRANSFORMERS MADE MONEY! MORE 80s CARTOONS!'. Look for Tobey McGuire in Robotech and Justin Long in Voltron.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 09, 2009, 01:30:51 PM
I want GI Joe!  :(  Boo hoo!
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 09, 2009, 01:37:19 PM
Tell me that after you see the movie.

Marlon Wayans ruins everything.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 09, 2009, 01:44:03 PM
Well, I meant I want GI Joe.  I don't want the one they've made.  They can keep that one.   :smoker:
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 09, 2009, 01:53:56 PM
I never liked GI Joe, either.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 09, 2009, 01:57:32 PM
I liked GI Joe!  The Real American Hero, ....with various choice imports!
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 09, 2009, 05:24:49 PM
A live action GI JOE movie done right would be great.

I doubt that's what we're going to get though.  These are the same type of people that decided not to let deadpool talk.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 09, 2009, 05:30:04 PM
I want G.I. Joe too. I love G.I. Joe, that's what I'm so pissed about that movie they are giving us.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jul 10, 2009, 09:02:01 AM
The kid I used to play with in Brownsville would tie his G.I. Joes up with twine and use my Breyer horse models to drag them around with before another Joe rescued him.   He coundn't get the boots off of one, so he'd just pull the pants down to the ankles and tie another pair of pants by the legs around the waist.  I wonder sometimes what kind of adult he became.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 10, 2009, 11:44:18 AM
Oh I'm sure a well adjusted adult, living a full life of cutting up his gay lovers and stocking them in his fridge so he can bring them out later to eat their raw flesh.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 10, 2009, 02:17:09 PM
Hopefully, a real-life Dexter gets him. I love that show, I'm going to marathon the series again OnDemand because Showtime rocks and understand people want to see full series rather than 4 fucking episodes a month like HBO does with the Wire. FUCK HBO.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 11, 2009, 07:15:38 AM
A live action GI JOE movie done right would be great.

Exactly, man.  It'd be the shit.  We'd have Flint, Lady Jaye, Shipwreck, Beachhead, Lifeline (for Merla, heh!) fucking Sergeant Slaughter.  You'd have to pause frame by frame to catch each Joe that appears in the final glorious fight sequence.  Everyone will be impressed that not only were ethnicities not compromised, but costumes are spot on from cartoon/comic/and or action figure!  When we get the reveal of Cobra Commander's face, everyone would scream.  And at the end would be *gasp* Serpentor!!  ....setting up a sequel.  Scott Weiland can be weaned off of heroin for long enough to do a bitching cover of the theme song to close up the credits.  Also featured would be Chris Cornell, Tom Rothrock, Slash (no one need tell Scott Weiland), Rage Against the Machine (no one need tell Chris Cornell) doing some tree-hugger song, fucking Bono, we can get some soft pop Frampton-esque sounding hippies for appease the older folks, and rap can more or less stay the fuck away unless it is mildly present in a rock song.  (Billy Idol can play in the background when we introduce the Dreadnoks.)  Locales would include Hawaii, Greenland, Arizona, Spain, and London (for sheer reason of cameoing Action Man).  Snake-Eyes would have to awesomest fucking fight sequence on the face of the planet (in the middle of which is a duel w/ Storm Shadow).  Buildings will crumble, shit will blow up (but not too much shit, this isn't G.I. Bay), and even the fucking earth will move.  They're be some wirework by Yuen Wo Ping but not too much because that'd be gay and Americans use their fists!!11fwel  And because it's Cobra, they'll be an obligatory snake pit somewhere and Duke will reference Indiana Jones somehow.  And the subtitle would be something considering less a double entendre than "Rise of Cobra".
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 11, 2009, 09:46:54 AM
I'm just going to stand over there waiting for the Thor movie.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 11, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
I'd see it! And I think Quick Kick should be in there for the asian market.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 12, 2009, 01:31:18 PM
And Jinx, too!
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 12, 2009, 03:39:45 PM
I wanna see a live action version of the opening of G.I. Joe the movie. Everyone and their uncle was in that and it was fucking Boss.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 13, 2009, 12:19:36 AM
The guy who's going to play Loki in the Thor movie is an amazing thespian. OH! Plus, Iron Man 2 should be the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 13, 2009, 05:50:12 PM
I think Thor and Iron Man should both fight each other, then decide they want to be G.I. Joes.  They can even keep their names.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 13, 2009, 09:21:39 PM
Iron Man and Thor will hopefully fight each other for a bit in the Avengers movie.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 14, 2009, 12:21:23 AM
I'm really looking forward to Thor. Don't know why though, was never really a fan of the book back in my comic days.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 14, 2009, 05:27:26 AM
The new Thor comics are much better than the other ones. Post-ragnarok Thor is much more bearable. It's sad when they include stories from the 70s and 80s, because you see how far writing and art has gone.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 23, 2009, 11:26:39 PM
Jessica Biel is rumored to be in Thor.  Jessica fucking Biel.  Bleh.  And Natalie Portman, too.  I just find those two so generic.  I wish they could've casted more interesting actresses for this thing.



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Chris Hemsworth is cast as Thor while Tom Hiddleston is Loki, the god of mischief who serves as the movie's villain. The story centres on Thor, a powerful but arrogant warrior whose reckless actions reignite an ancient war. Thor is cast down to Earth and forced to live among humans but once here, he learns what it takes to be a true hero when the most dangerous villain of his world sends the darkest forces of Asgard to invade Earth.

Sounds kinda gay.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 23, 2009, 11:37:17 PM
Sounds Cliche, but eh..it' a Superhero movie. They are kinda suppose to be I guess.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 23, 2009, 11:43:45 PM
Yeah, but after awhile it becomes "seen one, seen them all".
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 24, 2009, 12:02:56 AM
Well I enjoyed Iron Man even though I pretty much knew what was going to happen from the start. Wasn't a big swerve what was going to happen in that one. It was telegraphed through the whole thing.

But I do kinda agree, with tickets reaching 10 bucks a person it's getting to be not worth seeing a retread of the same story over and over again and more of a wait and rent it type thing.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: jonhammstein on Jul 24, 2009, 01:54:15 AM
Jessica Biel is rumored to be in Thor.

I'd rather see Thor in Jessica Biel. Nyuck-nyuck-nyuck!

I'm crossing my fingers for Thor, but yeah, I have no real hope for it. In fact, I think I can smell it already...
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 24, 2009, 06:52:31 AM
It was supposed to be historical, ala Lord of the Rings. Now it seems they changed it. C'est la vie, Iron Man 2 will kick ass.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: gwynn on Jul 24, 2009, 05:24:27 PM
I do not keep up with these Marvel movie happenings....

Has anyone seen the new animated Green Lantern movie? It's really awesome even though I didn't like it that it only takes place on Earth for 2 minutes.
Great animation, Hal was all "okay whatever" with everything that was happening which I thought was...okay whatever, and Sinestro was very Timothy Dalton in his portrayal.
It's not quite as kickass as the WonderWoman feature but right up there as the best 2 DC animated films I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 24, 2009, 11:59:36 PM
Timothy Dalton would have made for an excellent Sinestro in the GL live-action flick against Ryan Reynolds' Hal Jordan, come to think of it. 
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 25, 2009, 12:01:41 AM
I didn't even realize there was a new Green Latern movie.  Wonder Woman's sitting in my queue.

I'm kinda annoyed that Deadpool is going to be the live action Green Latern.  Can people stick to one superhero or whatever?  It's distracting.  Iron Man as Sherlock Holmes?  Forget all the other problems I have with that movie, but can we not have fucking Iron Man as Sherlock Holmes?  He's not British and it's just weird.  Apparently Russell Crowe was supposed to be Watson.  They should've fought for him.  Watson should at least appear to be older than Holmes and Russell Crowe, well, looks old.  It's the dynamic.  Jude Law, meanwhile, looks like Holmes' little brother tagged along.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 25, 2009, 01:22:10 AM
More G.I. Joe to hate on.  Spoilers follow,
Spoiler (hover to show)
  You have been warned.

http://www.joereloaded.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=5372&p=49677

That is one huge-ass knife.  And just because I'm fond of reiteration, this Duke/Baroness thing is YUCK.

Also am annoyed w/ lack of Scarlett/Snake-Eyes.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 25, 2009, 01:26:11 AM
What a Bay-tastic trainwreck:  http://www.beyondhollywood.com/new-g-i-joe-rise-of-cobra-clip-proves-snake-eyes-cg-badassness/

Oh course, tons of people will love this and it'll make Transformers-sized wads of cash.  Meanwhile, I die a little inside.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: gwynn on Jul 25, 2009, 06:42:54 AM
At least Bay used some practical effects and the humans weren't flying around like animated trapeze artists made of jello.
I am even iffy about wasting time to download this movie but then I did watch Dragonball Evolution so never underestimate the powet of my boredom.
Best thing that came out of that is the teaser for the new Peter Jackson film District 9, that I may want to see.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 25, 2009, 11:32:09 AM
but then I did watch Dragonball Evolution so never underestimate the powet of my boredom.
You poor soul, you're the only one I know who did.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: jonhammstein on Jul 25, 2009, 12:43:35 PM
Oh, I watched it.
And honestly, it's not the worst thing ever. Not by a long shot.
But it is fucking bad.

Dragonball's score on Metacritic is 45. Wolverine's is 43. Revenge of the Fallen's is 35.

Where on that scale will G.I. Joe end up?
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 25, 2009, 01:23:38 PM
Can people stick to one superhero or whatever?  It's distracting.

You should give them a chance to pull it off before passing judgment.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 25, 2009, 11:23:14 PM
I reserve the right to judge something without seeing, knowing, or even having heard anything about said property.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 26, 2009, 05:15:58 AM
I'm not referring to any particular property.

I mean the concept of actors playing more than one role in their lifetime.  Cause it happens ya know.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 26, 2009, 07:12:59 PM
Can people stick to one superhero or whatever?  It's distracting.

You should give them a chance to pull it off before passing judgment.

1. No, actually I don't have to.
2. I didn't even pass any "judgment" on anybody.  I know RDJr. is a damn good actor and JL and RR aren't exactly commonly panned (even though I don't care for either).  I just said I found it distracting and weird.  Come on, it's weird.  Forget whether he can do it or not, it's weird.  RDJr. as Sherlock Holmes?  If anyone in the world could be your choice for Sherlock Holmes, would you have really picked Ironman?


I'm not referring to any particular property.

I mean the concept of actors playing more than one role in their lifetime.  Cause it happens ya know.

Yes, we already know you need to defend your own kind.  :)


but then I did watch Dragonball Evolution so never underestimate the powet of my boredom.
You poor soul, you're the only one I know who did.

Ditto.


Oh, I watched it.
And honestly, it's not the worst thing ever. Not by a long shot.
But it is fucking bad.

Dragonball's score on Metacritic is 45. Wolverine's is 43. Revenge of the Fallen's is 35.

Where on that scale will G.I. Joe end up?

Holy shit, Wolverine and RotF really ranked WORSE than "Geeko"?  Jesus Christ.  :lol:
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 26, 2009, 10:43:06 PM
Of course you don't "have to", you can go around calling things that you haven't seen yet weird all day.  No one can stop you.

But to call him a great actor and then pigeon hole him as iron man makes no sense.  He could be an even better Sherlock than he was Iron Man for all we know at this point.


Do I think it's a weird choice to have him play sherlock?  I'll say it's an interesting choice, but him playing iron man doesn't factor into it.  If they're going with some debauched genius version of holmes (was he like that in the books?)  then I think this is a good pull as Downey delivers in that capacity pretty well.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 26, 2009, 11:35:22 PM
If anyone in the world could be your choice for Sherlock Holmes, would you have really picked Ironman?

I'd pick Micheal Cane from 30 years ago. In fact I'm not sure he hasn't played Sherlock Holmes. Sadly since I grew up with TNG everytime I think of Holmes I think of Brent Spiner.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 27, 2009, 02:52:24 AM
But to call him a great actor and then pigeon hole him as iron man makes no sense.

Dude, come on.  Those aren't mutually exclusive events.


He could be an even better Sherlock than he was Iron Man for all we know at this point.  Blah blah blah...

Okay, okay, we get it, you're in love with RDJr.  Fine, I won't call him.  He's yours.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 27, 2009, 03:25:56 PM
I'd rather see Jude Law as a modern Sherlock Holmes if for no other reason than he was in one of the Grenada Sherlock Holmes shows as a young actor.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 27, 2009, 03:33:12 PM
Jude Law would make a good modern Holmes, but they were clearly going for RDJr.-style grit.  I can't help but think there was at least one retarded exec going all "Holmes uses drugs, so does RDJr.!"
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 27, 2009, 03:37:06 PM
There was only one true Sherlock Holmes, and his name was Jeremy Brett.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 27, 2009, 03:48:51 PM
Basil Rathbone kinda looks like RDJr. in this pic.

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Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 27, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
If you are lucky maybe 3 other people here will know who that is.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 27, 2009, 04:57:07 PM
My favorite Guy of Gisbourne!
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 27, 2009, 06:08:23 PM
If you are lucky maybe 3 other people here will know who that is.

And they will probably be the only three who matter.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 27, 2009, 07:33:56 PM
If you are lucky maybe 3 other people here will know who that is.

And they will probably be the only three who matter.

Since I included myself as part of the three...then YAY ME! I guess.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 27, 2009, 09:37:54 PM
But to call him a great actor and then pigeon hole him as iron man makes no sense.

Dude, come on.  Those aren't mutually exclusive events.

 
Yeah I guess I'm forgetting all the adventures that they had together.

"I say stark old chap, hit him with the repulser beam again and let's call it a day!"
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 27, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
But Ryan Reynolds is another story.  I have to agree with you on that because they're both comic book super heros and while one is DC and one is marvel no one is going to make that distinction.  I'm guessing DC thinks that deadpool just isn't that big of a deal to the point that they can overwrite the affiliation with that of GL.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Wickedly Yours E on Jul 28, 2009, 12:45:04 PM
Basil Rathbone played Sherlock Holmes in the old 1940's Black and White Sherlock Holmes series. Jeremy Brett played Holmes in some  late 80's to Early 90's Sherlock Holmes films, entitled "The Memoirs/casebook/adventures of Sherlock Holmes."

And I knew this because I have some Rathbone Holmes DVD's. Seriously. Still looking for Jeremy Brett Holmes DVDs.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 28, 2009, 03:29:08 PM
Actually, it was a TV series of over forty episodes, rather than a series of films.  The Grenada series is available on Netflix and in a remastered DVD set (http://www.amazon.com/Sherlock-Holmes-Complete-Granada-Television/dp/B000RPCJB6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1248812800&sr=8-3) (which has seen a dramatic markdown of which I may take advantage).
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Jul 28, 2009, 05:40:03 PM
Sadly I know Mr. Basil not for his great early work in things like the Sherlock Holmes movies (was never a fan of holmes myself) but rather his later 60s stuff when he was hard up for money before his death. Movies like "Voyage to the Prehistoric Planet" and "The Magic Sword"

That and as the Narrator of the Wind and the Willows section of the "The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad." Course I usually watch this movie at Halloween for the Headless Horseman section.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 28, 2009, 09:37:48 PM
I know him mainly from Adventures of Robin Hood (one of the greatest movies of all time) and Captain Blood.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 29, 2009, 12:03:26 AM
But Ryan Reynolds is another story.  I have to agree with you on that because they're both comic book super heros and while one is DC and one is marvel no one is going to make that distinction.  I'm guessing DC thinks that deadpool just isn't that big of a deal to the point that they can overwrite the affiliation with that of GL.

Maybe they'll luck out and most of the people who go see these movies will have no idea who GL and/or Deadpool are, therefore it won't be an issue.  There's people out there who can't name all four turtles and don't know who Gandalf is.  Or who wear T-shirts of comic characters and when I bring up the character's name, they're all "who".  I don't know how many times I've pointed out the black guy in Iron Man is War Machine and get a blank stare.  I don't think these sorts of people will care enough for it to matter.


Since I bring up War Machine.  Don Cheadle... Boo.  Who's dog did Terrance Howard run over that he lost that part?  I was looking forward to seeing him as War Machine.  Chips and crackers.   :(
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Jul 29, 2009, 03:37:46 AM
Yeah, but even the average gump whose never even heard of dead pool and only vaguely remembers green lantern from super friends is going to see that Ryan Reynolds is both of them. 

Especially if they drop within a year of each other. 

Which is why it only makes sense to cast me as either one instead.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Derrick on Jul 29, 2009, 05:22:16 AM
Since I bring up War Machine.  Don Cheadle... Boo.  Who's dog did Terrance Howard run over that he lost that part?  I was looking forward to seeing him as War Machine.  Chips and crackers.   :(

He basically raped Jon Favereu (sp?) throughout production and acted a bitch. He got dropped because he sucked and only good editing made him a viable part of the movie. Why did they have that Agent save Pepper when they knew a SOLDIER!? Because Terry didn't get blue M&Ms.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Jul 29, 2009, 03:27:47 PM
Looking up Terrence Howard, I stumbled upon this silly MTV Movies blog entry:

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/07/29/bryce-dallas-howard-youre-not-alone-here-are-five-other-re-cast-roles/

Apparently, one of the bad vamps from Twilight is being replaced by Bryce Dallas Howard in the third flick.  Anyway, it talks about other film replacements.

Maggie's Rachel Dawes was sickly little mess, so I don't think it's a good example at all.  Hardly an "upgrade".  Michael Gambon is an excellent actor, but Richard Harris was a far better Dumbledore.  Hardly the "definitive version".

All the "Batmen" aren't a good example either IMO.  It would've been an example if Bale had been replaced in the second film like Katie Holmes was.  Maybe when we went from Michael Keaton to Val Kilmer to George Clooney.  But they include earlier Batman actors and Bale in this.  Bale's Batman movies are a fresh take and in that vein, Bale has never been replaced nor actually replaced anyone.  You can't argue Bale replaced George Clooney when Bale's films are a reboot and came eight years later.

It also lists Terrence Howard being replaced, which is stupid because Iron Man 2 isn't even out yet.  I doubt Don Cheadle would fuck it up, but it's definetely not "proof enough that [Bryce Dallas] Howard's upcoming gig might work out for the best."
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: gwynn on Jul 29, 2009, 04:16:52 PM
I remember Basil Rathbone because he has a cool name, and I've heard it before somewhere.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Aug 05, 2009, 03:09:56 AM
Re: G.I.Joe, I read

Spoiler (hover to show)

I don't know if it's true or not, but if so, that's fucking stupid.  Not as stupid though as

Spoiler (hover to show)

Boo!  I really want this to flop but I know it'll make a shitload of bank just like that POS Transformers 2.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Aug 05, 2009, 11:25:58 AM
I heard they arn't sending the movie out for review by critics. A surefire sign that they know they have a stinkburger on their hands and don't want bad press to effect opening wekend ticket sales.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Aug 05, 2009, 11:06:44 PM
I think the press release said something about letting the audience decide or some bullshit like that.  I personally don't see what difference it would possibly make.  The target audience doesn't let mainstream reviews dictate squat.  These are the same people who made Transformers 2 a summer hit.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Aug 05, 2009, 11:34:45 PM
Yeah, let the audience decide!  That way, if they think it's shit, you've already got their buXors.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Aug 05, 2009, 11:57:53 PM
What I always love is the classic forum arguement. "Well you can't judge it till you see it" which when I do and I think it's shit is always followed by "Then why did you pay to go see it" by the very same people.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Aug 06, 2009, 01:23:50 PM
Which I agree is a load of crap.  I've wasted so much money on theatical showings of crummy movies that I'm hesitant to ever go even when I hear good reviews.  That's partly why I never saw the new Star Trek...I put it off a few weeks to determine if the reviews I heard stuck after a few weeks (you know people will say crap is good immediately after they see it, but change their minds upon second viewings or after they think about it for a bit), and then I tried getting a crew up to see it but nobody could take off to see it when I could.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Aug 06, 2009, 07:14:51 PM
I still haven't seen that yet.  I figure it's just LOST combined with Star Trek, which doesn't encourage me very much.

What I always love is the classic forum arguement. "Well you can't judge it till you see it" which when I do and I think it's shit is always followed by "Then why did you pay to go see it" by the very same people.

I always judge shit before I see it.  I do it with the understanding that sometimes I'm wrong but 90% of the time, I'm right.  And a bunch of it is common sense.  I don't need to see the other 3 Fast and Furious movies to know I'll hate them when I already saw the first one and hated it.  And movies with certain actors have an inevitable amount of hate that comes with it.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Aug 06, 2009, 08:35:22 PM
I would never follow up with "why did you pay?"

If anything I encourage you to steal said property or see it gratis anyway you can.

Unless I'm in it.  Then you better pony up some dough.  Cause artists rights and all that shit
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Aug 06, 2009, 09:40:48 PM
What if you're just a walk on?
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Aug 06, 2009, 11:28:46 PM
Background work doesn't count.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Aug 07, 2009, 01:55:17 AM
Awesome.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Aug 07, 2009, 11:25:12 AM
Yes I'd consider it revenge on my behalf for not receiving a bigger part.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: B E C K on Aug 09, 2009, 01:09:24 AM
Holy cow, I saw this movie on SciFi--I mean, SyFy  ::)--called "Ice Spider" or something.  It had some of the worse actors of all time.  Especially the male lead.  I died a little inside everytime he opened his stupid fucking mouth.  You must save us from these people.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: Rama on Aug 09, 2009, 01:30:31 AM
And I'm sure it was proudly tagged as "The SyFy original movie Ice Spiders " too.
Title: Re: Transformers 2
Post by: IDE on Aug 09, 2009, 02:32:20 AM
I would love to get booked on one of those crappy si fi originals and just dominate so hard someone would be like "why aren't you famous?"