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General Garbage => Tropical Paradise of Hard Shelled Fruits => Topic started by: B E C K on Apr 23, 2006, 03:21:12 PM
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Do you really own a copy of "Soul Plane"?
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To answer your question...
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Oh God... why?
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Because eventually...someone had to get drunk and buy a copy...
And I think that I'm hardly as bad as my best friend, who owns a copy of 'Heartbeeps' on DVD.
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o_O; I don't even know what that is.
So did you actually enjoy this movie? I find Tom Arnold funny in everything he does but besides that I didn't find this movie very entertaining.
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I couldn't sit through "Soul Plane". It got borrowed from my aunt, who let her young daughter pick it out (wtf). Chalk up another one to parenting.
Heartbeeps: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082507/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082507/)
I think I would've been better sitting through that than "Soul Plane".
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You'd think it would be an easier watch than Soul Plane, yet oddly it isn't... No amount of alcohol could make it funny. Soul Plane on the other hand is a hilarious thrill ride when combined with liquor!
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Since I don't drink, it merely remains a nightmare in sobriety.
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You're missing out. John Witherspoon fingers a baked potato.
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Soul Plane is a real good "oh my God this movie is so retarded" kind of movie... and I found the teabagging joke pretty good.
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I saw about half of it. I'm not inclined to believe I've missed out on anything by jumping ship at the end.
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.And I think that I'm hardly as bad as my best friend, who owns a copy of 'Heartbeeps' on DVD.
Yeah, but at least that had Andy Kaufman in it...Soul Plane is Kaufmanless.
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You've never seen 'Heartbeeps', have you?
HAVE YOU?!
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Well....I saw "clips" of it. Alright! I admit it....I've never seen it. But it can't be as bad as Soul Plane.....which I have also never seen.
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I sat through 'Heartbeeps' for the first time last week... Near the end, I began to contemplate nullification...
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Well now I want to see, if for nothing else to pit my constution for bad movies against the mighty Extra Zeros. I sat through Krull, Freejack, The Man who Fell to Earth and Kull the Conqueror. I think I can handle it.
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You keep thinking that...
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Ah...a challenge!
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I liked Kull the Conqueror. It was like Hercules with a sword.... like... another, different, non-Hercules sword.
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I found sitting through Kull to be most painful. I actually paid to see in the theater and was the only one there. Half way through I snuck out and went to a different flick.
I did end up watching the whole thing a few years ago on the Sci-Fi Channel though and age didn't improve it any, I just appericate chesse more now then I did then.
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I don't remember if I rented it or first saw it on TV. What's Krull about?
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Atlantis Dude needs to save the world by rescuing hot girl from even hotter but brown evil girl. He wins, black guy dies, the end.
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From what I can tell it's about a flying Starfish and the guy who owns it...and he goes on some adventure to save a girl from a castle that only appears like at sunset or some crazy shit like that.
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Did we learn nothing from LL Cool J and "Deep Blue Sea"?
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"Krull" is an awesome movie. "Kull" is a Kevin Sorbo project...
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I guess "awesome" is a relative term.
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Like how "LL Cool J" also means "penis".
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Alright....if you say so.
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As in "Sucking the".
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Sucking the LL Cool J?
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Alright....if you say so.
Me and the Official LL Cool J wiki. E wanting to suck it concerns me though.
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Hey it makes him happy.
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Does it? Does it really?
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He looks happy...But I guess he could be crying inside.
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So I can't get blackmailed for my Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band movie video?
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Alright....if you say so.
Me and the Official LL Cool J wiki. E wanting to suck it concerns me though.
E's been saying lots of strange things.
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I think there's confusion here between Kull and Krull. Krull was a 80's fantasy/sci-fi movie about alien beings coming down and some guy going on a quest to save his woman. Kull was that Conan clone from the late 90s with Kevin Sorbo in the title role fighting off the evil witch played by Tia Carrere (Schwing!).
I can't believe someone actually compared Krull to Willow, Dark Crystal, and of all things, Ladyhawke.
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I can't believe Lucas didn't get sued for Williow. It's like Lord of the Rings Junior.
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I think there's confusion here between Kull and Krull.
I didn't get that impression from this thread. Who's confused?
It's like Lord of the Rings Junior.
No it's not. Stop being gay.
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Oh yes it is.
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Dare I ask for an explanation as to why.
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An object of great powet (in LOTR the One Ring, in Willow the baby) finds it's way into the hands of a halfling who then set out on a great journey to take it someplace (In LOTR Mount Doom, in Willow back to the humans) along the way they run into a mighty warrior who is displaced, but who will one day be king (LOTR: Aargorn, Willow: Madmartigan) and a powerful Mage who acts as the guide for our young half-Ling (LOTR: Gandalf. Willow:Fin Raziel). Also our hero falls in love with a princess of her people (LOTR Arwen, Willow Sorsha). Then meet a powerful white lady in the woods (LOTR Gaderial, Willow: The fiary queen, or what ever her name was) They fight their way through Golbins and Riders in black on their journey (LOTR: The Witchking and his Ringwraiths. WIllow: Gen. Kael and his troops) but in the end they end up in the accursed land (LOTR: Mordor Willow: The seige of Queen Bavmorda's castle) Where they finally defeat the evil and peace is returned to the land. Our once Rogue hero marries his princess and becomes king of all the land and our small brave hero returns to his villiage to return to his humble life.
It's Lord of the Rings.
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Minus the one ring of course.
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The one ring is just the Baby. Swap the ring for the baby. So it's like Lord or the Badies.
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Now someone point out all the ways willow and lotr are different.
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No Elves....no Dwarves.
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I watched Willow a few years back after having read LotR and the comparison was obvious. Me and my brother were both like "how the hell did they get away with this!" so yeah... needless to say I totally agree.
There are actaully 2 more Willow books following the events of the series written by X-Men comic writter Chris Clairemont. I did a double take when I noticed that on the shelf next to Janine's bed one morning. "Is that? By the... what the hell?" Apparently they're good but then she reads Magic the Gathering books ...
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Wow...there is more Willow out there?
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Oh shit, fuck me.
So is Big G Fuckus ever gonna do that sequel? Or will he wait for Warrick Davis to die and then digitize him in?
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http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553...=books&v=glance (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553095986/sr=1-1/qid=1146113628/ref=sr_1_1/702-2595589-7994442?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books&v=glance)
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553...=books&v=glance (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553504266/sr=1-2/qid=1146113628/ref=sr_1_2/702-2595589-7994442?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books&v=glance)
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0593...=books&v=glance (http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/0593040562/sr=1-7/qid=1146113628/ref=sr_1_7/702-2595589-7994442?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=books&v=glance)
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All the Pecks will be digital this time!
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As read by fucking Odo!
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Hahaha. Yeah that sounds sweet.
I always like Willow as a kid. I watched the DVD with commentary and some featurettes and then realised that it was, apparently, a commercial failure. Kids are oblivious to such things.
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Same here. I almost feel like watching it now. Almost.
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Hahaha. I'm almost relieved I don't have the DVD so I don't have to make that decision.
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I bought it years ago but I've probably seen half of it one time since I've owned it.
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I've seen it many times lately thanks to TBS. That's also how I watch Masters of the Universe time and time again. Though that DVD's mine, not my brother's like Willow, so I can watch that gem anytime!
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There are some LOTR-esque books out there that are the most blatant rip off of LOTR ever. The hobbits are called "Warrows" i think and the similarities are off the scale.
I think you can get away with stuff like willow and the above mentioned series in the name of homage to LOTR. It's not just another fantasy world to be ripping off it's the penultimate master work, names from LOTR can be found in all sorts of different fantasy book franchises. Even star wars has planets named after LOTR places I think.
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Must be a nice mix after incorporating those pr0n-name planets, Titooine and Dagoballs.
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There are some LOTR-esque books out there that are the most blatant rip off of LOTR ever. The hobbits are called "Warrows" i think and the similarities are off the scale.
I think you can get away with stuff like willow and the above mentioned series in the name of homage to LOTR. It's not just another fantasy world to be ripping off it's the penultimate master work, names from LOTR can be found in all sorts of different fantasy book franchises. Even star wars has planets named after LOTR places I think.
I really don't mind it if it's ode to something or that you where inspired by another artist work. What I don't like is there are some people that do that and then act like they were so creative and came up with all by themselves, and they don't even mention that they were heavily influenced by this or that work. I also hate it when those same people try to sue people for ripping them off when they did the very same thing to someone else. (Example: George Lucas Vs Battlestar Galactica.)
And I don't know of any on-screen planets names that where taken from LOTR, but there could be some EU stuff that is. I do know that "Endor" is from the Bible. More specifically the Witch of Endor story. And while not named after it, I heard that Tatooine was based on Arrakis from the Dune series of books, which GL was a big fan of. That was also suppose to the orgin of the line about the "Spice Mines".
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crap I was thinking endor was from LOTR...but it is the bible.
but then I found this from some site:
Magic in Endor during the end of the Second Age and the Third Age is almost exclusively in the hands of the Order of the Istari, and the Servants of Sauron. There are NO Wizards outside of the Istari that are not Elven. Some of the Elves learned this form of magic to understand it. Lord Elrond of Rivendale is one such Elf. Most Elven Magic at the time revolves around some Sorcery, considered a "dark art" by the elves as it did not come to the Elves until after Saurons betrayal, and priestly (mostly druidical) crafts.
I don't know...I can't remember everything I read in teh Sil
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There are some LOTR-esque books out there that are the most blatant rip off of LOTR ever. The hobbits are called "Warrows" i think and the similarities are off the scale.
I think you can get away with stuff like willow and the above mentioned series in the name of homage to LOTR. It's not just another fantasy world to be ripping off it's the penultimate master work, names from LOTR can be found in all sorts of different fantasy book franchises. Even star wars has planets named after LOTR places I think.
I really don't mind it if it's ode to something or that you where inspired by another artist work. What I don't like is there are some people that do that and then act like they were so creative and came up with all by themselves, and they don't even mention that they were heavily influenced by this or that work. I also hate it when those same people try to sue people for ripping them off when they did the very same thing to someone else. (Example: George Lucas Vs Battlestar Galactica.)
And I don't know of any on-screen planets names that where taken from LOTR, but there could be some EU stuff that is. I do know that "Endor" is from the Bible. More specifically the Witch of Endor story. And while not named after it, I heard that Tatooine was based on Arrakis from the Dune series of books, which GL was a big fan of. That was also suppose to the orgin of the line about the "Spice Mines".
Spice Frieghter too, though I've never seen Dune.
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crap I was thinking endor was from LOTR...but it is the bible.
but then I found this from some site:
Magic in Endor during the end of the Second Age and the Third Age is almost exclusively in the hands of the Order of the Istari, and the Servants of Sauron. There are NO Wizards outside of the Istari that are not Elven. Some of the Elves learned this form of magic to understand it. Lord Elrond of Rivendale is one such Elf. Most Elven Magic at the time revolves around some Sorcery, considered a "dark art" by the elves as it did not come to the Elves until after Saurons betrayal, and priestly (mostly druidical) crafts.
I don't know...I can't remember everything I read in teh Sil
And yeah, Endor is another name for middle Earth.
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/e/endor.html (http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/e/endor.html)
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Big George Suckus sued Battlestar Galactica?
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He tired, but it was thrown out of court. And rightly so. BSG did borrow elements from SW but not enough to make it an infringement. Mainly the "Look" with their SFX shots. But that ended up backfiring on them cause I heard it cost a million dollars to produce one episode of Battlestar Galactica. That's not a lot now, but in 1979 that was a huge amount to pour into one episode. And that's why the show got canned after one year.
After watching some of the movies and shorts that "Inspired" SW, I don't think George Lucas should be suing anyone. I mean the opening scrawl was almost exactly the same as the one seen in Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe.
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Bah, he's such a tardo.
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Why the fuck do they quote me?
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Since I posted last in this thread I've see the Kurosawa film, The Hidden Fortress. I had heard that a lot of the elements for SW were taken right from this film and that's pretty much true. The movie even starts with two peasants fighting with each other in the desert, ala R2-D2 and C-3PO. Where they run across a former General named Makabe (Kenobi) and they have the gold (Death Star Plans) that the bad guys want. In the process of the adventure they help a young head strong Princess named Yuki (Leia) and they help her escape from the country (The Death Star) and just when all hope is lost A rogue general has a change of heart and helps them at the last minute (Han Solo) The only thing missing the young farm boy, and a wookie.
Although it's not directly as ripped off as say Sergio Leone's "A Fist Full of Dollars" was of "Yojimbo." I don't know if Sergio Leone ever said this was remake or not. It's not listed in the credits as one, but it is clearly the same film. I mean right down to key plotpoints like the hero freeing the wife of the gambler from the bad guy who has taken her in lue of payment.
Actually with a little research it looks like Sergio Leone didn't give credit where credit was due and got caught with this pants down because of it. This is from IMDB:
"The film's US release was delayed when Yojimbo (1961) screenwriters Akira Kurosawa and Ryuzo Kikushima sued the filmmakers for breach of copyright. Kurosawa and Kikushima won and as a result received 15 percent of the film's worldwide gross and exclusive distribution rights for Japan, Taiwan and South Korea. Kurosawa said later he made more money off of this project than "Yojimbo"."
Go figure.
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Ha. You go Kurosawa. I know how bad this is gonna sound, but I haven't seen any of those movies. I always meant to see Yojimbo but never got around to it.
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Ha. You go Kurosawa. I know how bad this is gonna sound, but I haven't seen any of those movies. I always meant to see Yojimbo but never got around to it.
You should. Yojimbo is a great flick. I wish I owned it, but sadly I don't.
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