The Sphere
General Garbage => Tropical Paradise of Hard Shelled Fruits => Topic started by: Faye Valentine on Dec 23, 2004, 08:47:26 PM
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so the first present i got (from my uncles) the 3dvds of the lord of the rings...YUUMMYY
today i went to the mall and bought stuff....for me of course. god bless AX
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Well, I only got Metal Gear Solid 3 from my parents and a 40 dollar gift certificate from my cousin so far.
I think that will be it.
Unofficially, I got 4 games from that Circuit City sale a while ago, and I recently got a new 32 inch Sony Wega tv (non-HD) to replace the Panasonic Tau one with screwed up speakers.
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Viewtiful Joe 2
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Jak 3
Megaman X8
Mechassault 2: Lone Wolf
PS2 Memory Card
A Nintendo DS
Super Mario 64 DS
Spiderman 2 DS
DS Starter kit
Gamecube Action Replay
$20 Blockbuster gift card
$50
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I've treated myself to a DS, Mario 64 DS, Metal Gear Solid 3, Metroid Prime 2 and KOTOR 2. I'll probably get Pikmin 2 from my mom, in addition to clothes, a new shaver, an MP3 player and a wireless mouse.
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Merla got me some writable CDs and froggie jewelry. I also got some eyeshadow from my aunt. My stupid dad and his ho got me some pajamas, money, some weird picture thing (ftw)) and a crystal ball type globe-a-majigger with dragons and wizards and shit. That must be the weirdest piece of crap he's ever bought me in my freaking life. The tag said it was from him but she probably bought it. =\
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I bought myself Marvel Legends GHost Rider 2, Silver Ironman & Mecha Hulk and 2 video games Metal Arms & Buffy TVS:Chaos Bleeds.
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ooo i bought myself clothes, makeup, creams and a dvd(jackass the movie :-D )
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We don't open presents until tomorrow. :-(
But my gift to you:
(http://home.thirdage.com/Humor/chelseysuzie/merryxmas.jpg)
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...Nada Yet. I plan to get MGS3 tonight.
Treated myself to the Transformer combiners and Limbs..
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My sister got me Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories. W00t.
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BURN!!!! :angry:
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Que?
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Kingdom Hearts is evil.
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Not as evil as...Star Trek.
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:doug:
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Exactally!
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WOO HOO!! I gots the Nintendo DS, Super Mario 64 Ds, Sonic Tooth brush,Str Wars trilogy DVDs, and XM Radio!
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It's actually Doug's emoticon, too.
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...I don't have an emoticon...
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I got a DVD player and Cabaret on DVD!!! *bounces all happy like*
And my aunt and uncle weren't stupid and got me the Bright Eyes CD that I really wanted.
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you know what! we all should be ashamed. Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Jesus, not about receiving gifts. damn. (yes, i've just changed my view about the situation)
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I have to do a shitload of returns tomarrow. Everyone got me stuff two sizes too big. I wear a fucking Medium, not an XL! Just because I'm a foot taller than the rest of the family doesn't make me a giant...
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Yes, it's about the birth of Jesus. Unfortunately, my family isn't very religious despite my parents being surrounded by it their whole lives. My dad went to Catholic school for twelve years and my mom is from the south.
Anyway... I have to return clothes too, Zero. My mom bought me two sweaters that are too small. I THOUGHT I wore a medium... FTW?
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I gave up Christianity, but I still respect and enjoy the the holiday.
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Fuck Jesus.
Presents > Jesus.
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Haha, you're a heretic too!
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yeah, i wanna see max if one day one of the people he cares about have an accident or something goes wrong, he would be on his knees praying like there's no tomorrow
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Yes, it's about the birth of Jesus. Unfortunately, my family isn't very religious despite my parents being surrounded by it their whole lives. My dad went to Catholic school for twelve years and my mom is from the south.
Anyway... I have to return clothes too, Zero. My mom bought me two sweaters that are too small. I THOUGHT I wore a medium... FTW?
That reminds me of a commercial for Shorties Watchin' Shorties on Comedy Central.
"People are always asking me, 'Hey Jim, if you went to Catholic school for 12 years, then how come you're not a Catholic?' and I say, 'Well, because... I... went to Catholic school for 12 years.'"
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yeah, i wanna see max if one day one of the people he cares about have an accident or something goes wrong, he would be on his knees praying like there's no tomorrow
Why would I be praying to something that doesn't exist?
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yeah, i wanna see max if one day one of the people he cares about have an accident or something goes wrong, he would be on his knees praying like there's no tomorrow
When my mom was diagnosed with Cancer, I was saddened, but I called to no god and she is fine now.
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yeah, i wanna see max if one day one of the people he cares about have an accident or something goes wrong, he would be on his knees praying like there's no tomorrow
Why would I be praying to something that doesn't exist?
whatever
When my mom was diagnosed with Cancer, I was saddened, but I called to no god and she is fine now.
so? that doesnt mean anything
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My point is that not everyone falls on their knees when something goes wrong. I have faced many tradgedies in my lifetime and have never called upon "God".
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I've never seen someone who is so open minded be so narrow minded.
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I do believe in the possibility of God, however if he does exist and we are somehow indeed modeled after him, than he probably think like us. Humans are creators and as creators we do not generally stop our business to change small things that have no effect on the universe. Humans tend to only care for their own skins, the being we would be modeled after him, he would probably only do the same. While we do watch over family, he has done nothing to show his existance. With all the suffering, hate and disease in the world, it is evident that if God exists, he is not a nuturing or loving being...
So , why call on him? Why not call on yourself and your own strengh? Shouldn't that be the basis of faith? Faith in yourself?
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I was talking about Faye...mybad
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I do believe in the possibility of God, however if he does exist and we are somehow indeed modeled after him, than he probably think like us. Humans are creators and as creators we do not generally stop our business to change small things that have no effect on the universe. Humans tend to only care for their own skins, the being we would be modeled after him, he would probably only do the same. While we do watch over family, he has done nothing to show his existance. With all the suffering, hate and disease in the world, it is evident that if God exists, he is not a nuturing or loving being...
So , why call on him? Why not call on yourself and your own strengh? Shouldn't that be the basis of faith? Faith in yourself?
thats what aaall the atheistics say...but hey, im not here to change your mind at all. the only thing im saying is that i think its wrong how people use xmas as an excuse to receive gifts while they dont think not even for one minute what x mas is about
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you can say that all you want but you still prefer to type xmas instead of CHRISTmas. Now what does that say about you?
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I celebrate Giftmas!
It just happens to be on the same day as Christmas.
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you can say that all you want but you still prefer to type xmas instead of CHRISTmas. Now what does that say about you?
and your point is? do i have to type with a correct grammar now? should i start to capitalize the first letter of the sentence too?
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I do believe in the possibility of God, however if he does exist and we are somehow indeed modeled after him, than he probably think like us. Humans are creators and as creators we do not generally stop our business to change small things that have no effect on the universe. Humans tend to only care for their own skins, the being we would be modeled after him, he would probably only do the same. While we do watch over family, he has done nothing to show his existance. With all the suffering, hate and disease in the world, it is evident that if God exists, he is not a nuturing or loving being...
So , why call on him? Why not call on yourself and your own strengh? Shouldn't that be the basis of faith? Faith in yourself?
thats what aaall the atheistics say...but hey, im not here to change your mind at all. the only thing im saying is that i think its wrong how people use xmas as an excuse to receive gifts while they dont think not even for one minute what x mas is about
I am not an Athiest, I am an Agnostic. I believe in the possibility of a God or Gods, as well as purgatory and damnation and I've witnessed ghosts on a first hand basis. Don't just assume that all people are the same just because they question "higher powers". No Christian will admit that they've questioned the existance of God, but you all do; that's what drove me to drop religion. Don't accuse me of using Christmas as an excuse to get presents either; Christmas and 4th of July are the only real times I get to spend with my family as a whole. So regardless of what I believe, don't accuse me of bastardising a holiday I atleast have respect for, unlike many.
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was i accusing YOU in particular?? i was talking about EVERYBODY who only think about the presents they are gonna get (and do get) for x mas
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http://www.faqfarm.com/Holiday/Christmas/3989 (http://www.faqfarm.com/Holiday/Christmas/3989)
a true fact for Faye
Contrary to popular belief, Jesus wasn't born December 25th, he was born on January 7th. The Orthodox Christian church still celebrates x-mas on January 7th.
Christmas was moved to December 25th to coincide with a pagan holiday. This got more pagans to celebrate Jesus' birthday. This move was one of the reasons why the church split in 1043. It was then that the Pope went to Rome and the Patriarch of the Orthodox church went to Constantinopole.
Did you ever ask yourself why you have a x-mas tree and what it has to do with Jesus' birth? Well, now you know that it is a remnant of an old pagan tradition of worshipping trees.
Easter is another Christian holiday that changed dates to coincide with a pagan fertility holiday. This is why you paint eggs for Easter and celebrate little bunnies, whose procreation and fertility powers are known to all.
But why, I hear you cry, don't we celebrate Jesus' birthday on January 1st, isn't that the point? Well, yes, but in the old times, we didn't know about leap years and such secular phenomana, we used to burn people who thought that the earth was round, so the counting of days got a little scewed up. We fixed it up later. Don't have much more time to write. But this is it in a nutshell.
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so what?
scientists also say Jesus was actually born on the year 4 b.c. but whenever year or day Jesus was born, that doesn't change that they use that same day as an excuse to give/receive gifts
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you know what! we all should be ashamed. Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Jesus, not about receiving gifts. damn. (yes, i've just changed my view about the situation)
Ashamed of what? I'm not Catholic and I ask for nothing for Christmas. People just give me gifts.
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Ditto, I've already agreed that next year my siblings and I don't exchange gifts. I'm tired of feeling obliged to spend money on people that I'd be better off saving. That would be a far better gift than some useless trinket or a shirt that doesn't fit.
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Exactly.
My manager at work is a pagan of some sort and I was asking her question after question about her religion, and she said a lot along the lines of what toe posted.
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How'd we go from presents to trashing Christianity?
Anyway, I got tons of stuff I didn't really need but appreciated it anyway. But I did get a really nice glass-doored bookshelf that I plan on using for DVD storage.
I also got a corduroy-looking sport coat. Warm AND stylish! It was really good for wearing to church yesterday to celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, as it was cold as all get-out (in MS, even). Even if the actual day is contested (I've always heard it should be in February), it's still a far better reason to celebrate than the other crap the holiday is known for.
Just thought I'd get back on topic :P
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you know what! we all should be ashamed. Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Jesus, not about receiving gifts. damn. (yes, i've just changed my view about the situation)
Ashamed of what? I'm not Catholic and I ask for nothing for Christmas. People just give me gifts.
my mistake, i should have said my mssg is for people who are christians and still the only thing they think about in x mas are the presents. oh, and for the people who ""celebrate"" it even if they are not christians(by celebrate i mean give and receive the presents. thats worse)
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Viewtiful Joe 2
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Jak 3
Megaman X8
Mechassault 2: Lone Wolf
PS2 Memory Card
A Nintendo DS
Super Mario 64 DS
Spiderman 2 DS
DS Starter kit
Gamecube Action Replay
$20 Blockbuster gift card
$50
Nothing but video games? Do you ever go out and see the sun? Or are you fattening your ass up by spending your entire life in front of a video game?
I'm shocked at some people who get nothing but DVDs and video games for christmas. I've wondered why most hardcore gamers are fat asses, and I've figured it out... all you fuckers do is sit around for 48+ hours, drinking Mountain Dew so you'll stay awake to play video games. You're as bad as my brother, he does nothing all day but watch movies or attach himself to his computer/consoles, and he's starting to fatten up. Read a fucking book or something. :rolleyes:
Not as evil as...Star Trek.
What's with this constant hatred of Star Trek? I have this feeling Zero is in denial and he has a pair of Spock ears and a Klingon outfit in his closet.
and your point is? do i have to type with a correct grammar now? should i start to capitalize the first letter of the sentence too?
Might help. You never use correct grammar, you never use proper punctuation, and you never capitalize the beginning of your sentences. You type like a 13 year-old.
Contrary to popular belief, Jesus wasn't born December 25th, he was born on January 7th.
I don't think anyone actually knows the TRUE date of Jesus's birth, record keeping back then kinda sucked. But the rest of that stuff about pegan holidays and stuff is true.
When did Squirrel become a devout Christian?
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Might help. You never use correct grammar, you never use proper punctuation, and you never capitalize the beginning of your sentences. You type like a 13 year-old.
well, about the grammar, WHY WOULD THAT BE?
asshole.
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Not as evil as...Star Trek.
What's with this constant hatred of Star Trek? I have this feeling Zero is in denial and he has a pair of Spock ears and a Klingon outfit in his closet.
You'd like that, but Star Trek is just lame. As far as movie replicas go, I've got Master Replica's Darth Vader Lightsaber if you care that much.
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Nothing but video games? Do you ever go out and see the sun? Or are you fattening your ass up by spending your entire life in front of a video game?
Games are all I have. No friends, social life, nada.
Release dates are all I have to look forward to in life.
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Well, probably all Doug has is waiting for convention dates and fucking fat chicks dressed like Borg for three minutes at a crusty Howard Johnson's hotel. THENNN, he'll make a big to-do about Marrying her and they'll have this big old Star Trek themed wedding outside of a McDonalds in New Hampshire... And next thing you know, she'll be on this board screaming and crying every time we make fun of Doug or say something that's "not Christian."
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Eddie & I honestly have more fun getting each other unexpected presents during the year than on occasions when giving presents is expected. Besides, he can never wait. He got me some gorgeous moonstone chandelier earrings and gave them to me on the 18th, I think. :P We're getting a Bowflex in January after we finish redoing the computer room, so that's our big "present".
My best present this year was having enough vacation left to take the 3 days before Xmas (office closed the 24th & 25th). :D
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When you get killer abs, legs, and all the other fun stuff, we get pictures, right?
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Well, probably all Doug has is waiting for convention dates and fucking fat chicks dressed like Borg for three minutes at a crusty Howard Johnson's hotel. THENNN, he'll make a big to-do about Marrying her and they'll have this big old Star Trek themed wedding outside of a McDonalds in New Hampshire... And next thing you know, she'll be on this board screaming and crying every time we make fun of Doug or say something that's "not Christian."
Zero, stop imposing your twisted fantasies onto me.
Gifts:
- St*r WarzzZZ DVD set... My uncle got me the full screen, and I politely asked him if he could return it for widescreen. he thought I was insane for asking for widescreen, as he seems to think widescreen sucks. Am I crazy for wanting the widescreen version?
- Back to the Future DVDs. I'm not as big of a fan as Rama, but it's nice to have this anyway.
- A matress set from my mother to replace the sagging ones in my room.
- A new bedsheet
- $20 Giftcard for Hollywood video
- 50 CD-R spindle
- Some car repair tools from another uncle
- A LotR calendar
- Some food and candy stuffs
- $20, $35 chell, $50 chell, $100 chell, and get this.... a $500 chell from my great-grandparents.
I didn't get much that I wanted, but with all the money I got and the holiday paycheck on friday, I'll be able to buy anything I wanted.. except maybe that new car I want.
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No, you're not crazy. My mom got me the fullscreen version as well, which I was allowed to exchange. My outlook on widescreen is that 1.) you're getting the full picture, full screen is an even more edited version of the film and 2.) with widescreen televisions becoming cheaper and more common, it only makes sense to buy widescreen. If you ever convert to an HDTV, most of which ARE widescreen, you'll only appreciate your DVDs more--full screen DVDs you'll appreciate less.
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When did Squirrel become a devout Christian?
When has he not been a Christian? Do you even know who he is?
And doesn't X represent 'Christ'? That's what I had always heard.
Oh and full screen = ghey. They shouldn't even call it full screen because it does make it sound like you're getting more when you're getting less. They should stick with "pan and scan". Sounds more honest.
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As for the "X" I think it's supposed to represent a leaning cross. I guess lower-case "t"-mas doesn't sound good to anyone but Mr. T.
As for full screen, I like to refer to it as "fools-screen".
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These things only matter when there's a point to seeing a movie beyond the first time.
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Ha ha, "fool's screen". I like it. Not to mention with most movies, there's a simple solution. Most DVD players let you zoom the damn thing. Zoom it once and fill the screen. When you buy widescreen, you please everyone.
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Contrary to popular belief, Jesus wasn't born December 25th, he was born on January 7th.
I don't think anyone actually knows the TRUE date of Jesus's birth, record keeping back then kinda sucked. But the rest of that stuff about pegan holidays and stuff is true.
Some may say Jan. 7th (I think Greek Orthodox say the 6th), the Roman Catholics say the 25th. But both sides have been saying it since the second century, so it's not as recent as many think. This debate is actually where we get the "twelve days of Christmas" stuff.
If one were to go by Biblical teaching, there wouldn't be any special holy days on the Christian calendar aside from those laid out in scripture (which don't include Christmas or Easter). But people like their holidays.
When did Squirrel become a devout Christian?
When has he not been a Christian? Do you even know who he is?
Heh, heh, heh, Bueno...(http://www.shwiggie.com/boards/emoticons/bueno.gif) I've been a Christian since 1985. As for who I am, try visiting my Brand New Hovel (http://www.shwiggie.com) for a hint. Not that you would necessarily know me, but I'm a Spherian from way back.
As for the "X" I think it's supposed to represent a leaning cross. I guess lower-case "t"-mas doesn't sound good to anyone but Mr. T.
Dude, I'd celebrate that! Tmas!
"X" is the Greek letter ("chi") that comes first in the Greek spelling of Christ (see attached image for the actual Greek spelling). It's been used as an abbreviation for the word "Christ" for hundreds of years.
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Ha ha, "fool's screen". I like it. Not to mention with most movies, there's a simple solution. Most DVD players let you zoom the damn thing. Zoom it once and fill the screen. When you buy widescreen, you please everyone.
I like widescreen for that exact reason. I could care less about "the full picture" crap for the most part, but at least the format gives me a choice. If I'm in the kitchen with LOTR running, I want fullscreen so I can see what's going on when I look up, so I use the zoom. If I'm sitting there intently watching it, to borrow from All Your Base, "widescreen turn on, we get signal".
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I was raised Christian, confirmed Lutheran, and still like attending services at Reconciling in Christ (http://www.lcna.org/ric.shtm) Lutheran churches or other denominations with similar philosophies. I have a very difficult time, however, with most other interpretations of the faith, which strike me as very elitist and bigoted. My beliefs are a meshing of Christian and Taoist, so I could do Tmas with no problem. :P
When you get killer abs, legs, and all the other fun stuff, we get pictures, right?
Webcam, as soon as the quarter starts bouncing off my ass. :D
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I was raised Irish-Catholic, but severed most ties with the religion in 2000. I just wish there was a way to un-do a baptism.
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Webcam, as soon as the quarter starts bouncing off my ass. :D
Don't forget!
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I fucking need to get my webcam working, or atleast get a fucking digital camera.
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I was raised Irish-Catholic, but severed most ties with the religion in 2000. I just wish there was a way to un-do a baptism.
What about a fire that uses the bodies of criminals as kindling?
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I don't see what'd that'd do, but I'll try anything once.
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On a more important note, my new PS2 memory card is broken because it fell onto my floor.
Why the flying monkey cock did the person who had this room before me put tile in it?
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I just wish there was a way to un-do a baptism.
If it never took to start with, you don't have anything to worry about :P
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Good point.
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Contrary to popular belief, Jesus wasn't born December 25th, he was born on January 7th.
I don't think anyone actually knows the TRUE date of Jesus's birth, record keeping back then kinda sucked. But the rest of that stuff about pegan holidays and stuff is true.
Some may say Jan. 7th (I think Greek Orthodox say the 6th), the Roman Catholics say the 25th. But both sides have been saying it since the second century, so it's not as recent as many think. This debate is actually where we get the "twelve days of Christmas" stuff.
If one were to go by Biblical teaching, there wouldn't be any special holy days on the Christian calendar aside from those laid out in scripture (which don't include Christmas or Easter). But people like their holidays.
When did Squirrel become a devout Christian?
When has he not been a Christian? Do you even know who he is?
Heh, heh, heh, Bueno...(http://www.shwiggie.com/boards/emoticons/bueno.gif) I've been a Christian since 1985. As for who I am, try visiting my Brand New Hovel (http://www.shwiggie.com) for a hint. Not that you would necessarily know me, but I'm a Spherian from way back.
As for the "X" I think it's supposed to represent a leaning cross. I guess lower-case "t"-mas doesn't sound good to anyone but Mr. T.
Dude, I'd celebrate that! Tmas!
"X" is the Greek letter ("chi") that comes first in the Greek spelling of Christ (see attached image for the actual Greek spelling). It's been used as an abbreviation for the word "Christ" for hundreds of years.
http://www.raptureready.us/birthday.htm (http://www.raptureready.us/birthday.htm)
Fuck em both. Speaking STRICTLY from what knowledge we have from the scriptures they're both wrong. If Jesus WAS born, it was most likely in the Fall.
Of course I don't even celebrate Christmas myself, fuck-a-Christmas. Yule. Now there's a holiday.
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I don't see what'd that'd do, but I'll try anything once.
Duh, you jump in and burn off the Jesus.
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I suppose years of pain and skin grafts are all part of the cleansing.
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But of course.
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Some may say Jan. 7th (I think Greek Orthodox say the 6th), the Roman Catholics say the 25th. But both sides have been saying it since the second century, so it's not as recent as many think. This debate is actually where we get the "twelve days of Christmas" stuff.
If one were to go by Biblical teaching, there wouldn't be any special holy days on the Christian calendar aside from those laid out in scripture (which don't include Christmas or Easter). But people like their holidays.
http://www.raptureready.us/birthday.htm (http://www.raptureready.us/birthday.htm)
Fuck em both. Speaking STRICTLY from what knowledge we have from the scriptures they're both wrong. If Jesus WAS born, it was most likely in the Fall.
Of course I don't even celebrate Christmas myself, fuck-a-Christmas. Yule. Now there's a holiday.
Being that He was explicitly mentioned in surviving Roman records, it's not a question of if. But I read where someone said that shepherds of that time wouldn't have been keeping watch over flocks by night...in the dead of winter. Good link, there. It proves beyond doubt that Christmas is the attempted Christianization of a pagan holiday and an indication of the attempted marriage of both systems of thought into a singular one during the 2nd-4th centuries.
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Some may say Jan. 7th (I think Greek Orthodox say the 6th), the Roman Catholics say the 25th. But both sides have been saying it since the second century, so it's not as recent as many think. This debate is actually where we get the "twelve days of Christmas" stuff.
If one were to go by Biblical teaching, there wouldn't be any special holy days on the Christian calendar aside from those laid out in scripture (which don't include Christmas or Easter). But people like their holidays.
http://www.raptureready.us/birthday.htm (http://www.raptureready.us/birthday.htm)
Fuck em both. Speaking STRICTLY from what knowledge we have from the scriptures they're both wrong. If Jesus WAS born, it was most likely in the Fall.
Of course I don't even celebrate Christmas myself, fuck-a-Christmas. Yule. Now there's a holiday.
Being that He was explicitly mentioned in surviving Roman records, it's not a question of if. But I read where someone said that shepherds of that time wouldn't have been keeping watch over flocks by night...in the dead of winter. Good link, there. It proves beyond doubt that Christmas is the attempted Christianization of a pagan holiday and an indication of the attempted marriage of both systems of thought into a singular one during the 2nd-4th centuries.
Not to get off topic, but what 'specific' surviving Roman documents are you talking about?
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My birth certificate.
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The same one with all the maranara stains on it?
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No, my other one.
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OHHHH! The BBQ Sauce stained one.
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Fool! That's the blood from the stigmata. Only CVS had bandaids big enough.
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Well, you shouldn't eat ribs AND spaghetti during a stigmata....that only confuses people.
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I know, mom. :rolleyes:
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Not to get off topic, but what 'specific' surviving Roman documents are you talking about?
Guest? Qu'est ce? :P
In addition to Josephus, Jesus was mentioned in writings attributed to Tacitus, Hadrian's personal secretary, and a Roman author and administrator named Pliny. A Roman historian named Thallus (whose book is lost to time) was quoted in another work as having referred to Jesus, as well.
I'll have to look up specific document titles and quotes for your perusal. But like Prego spaghetti sauce, it's in there.
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Not to get off topic, but what 'specific' surviving Roman documents are you talking about?
Guest? Qu'est ce? :P
In addition to Josephus, Jesus was mentioned in writings attributed to Tacitus, Hadrian's personal secretary, and a Roman author and administrator named Pliny. A Roman historian named Thallus (whose book is lost to time) was quoted in another work as having referred to Jesus, as well.
I'll have to look up specific document titles and quotes for your perusal. But like Prego spaghetti sauce, it's in there.
Legends spread quickly, site one who was actually alive while Jesus was, and isn't referring to him as "Christus".
And do so in PM, since I don't want to drag this off topic.
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I hate it when people call me Nurius.
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Ever see that Pepsi commercial with the black dude named "Cleotis"?
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Nope.
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Damn shame.