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General Garbage => Tropical Paradise of Hard Shelled Fruits => Topic started by: Bernie AKA on Nov 03, 2004, 08:59:16 AM
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Somebody has apparently either committed suicide or tried to downtown. :blink:
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What?
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I am shocked. I don't know how Bush and his people did it...
@.x
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I don't know how Bush and his people did it...
Why do women get the living fuck beat out of them time and time again and go back to the same abusive man? The comfort of the familiar involves less personal risk than a new venture, no matter how bad the situation.
Probably about 5% don't really hate Kerry or love Bush. That leaves about 40-45% of the country that absolutely despises him. I wouldn't want to be him or any of his family for the next 4 years. They're not going to be able to take a shit without the SS. :P
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Well see, I would stab the guy with a broken bottle if he touched me. But now, there is no chance of a impeachment when we invade Iran.
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And here's some of the bullshit I have to endure at work:
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:23 AM
To: All Houston
Subject: RE:
Praise the Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R** Bryan, CPCU
Senior Vice President
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:15 AM
To: All Houston
Subject:
Associated Press just announced Kerry has called Bush & Kerry will concede this afternoon around 1:00 EST.
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That's one thing I hate about America x.x
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All the Jesus fanatics?
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yep, it was confirmed. Bush won!
damn i love to be right
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sorry again
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I'm still vastly confused as to why you should even give a continental shit.
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She's happy because she's right :(
But anyways, blame all the 18-24 year olds. only 10% voted! WTF!?
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Only 10%?? I was one of them though! My .001 didn't count for anything obviously.
There's a girl on another message board I frequent who's practically rubbing it in everybody's faces. She thinks that anyone who opposes Bush is a whiney anthiest liberal.
Oh well.. she's fat, ugly and has no friends. :D I just repeat that to myself when I read her posts.
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I voted. I'm in that range.
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She's happy because she's right :(
But anyways, blame all the 18-24 year olds. only 10% voted! WTF!?
looks like most 18-24 year olds want to be drafted. More powet to them.
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Hell, not me. Also, something that is coming out is the long lines in 'black' districts due to an area servicing 10,000 votes only having 10-20 voting machines. People can't wait in line all day >.<
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looks like most 18-24 year olds want to be drafted. More powet to them.
Draft? PLEASE! Don't you read your propaganda like a good little zombie? :angry:
Selective Homeland Security!
Doesn't that look prettier? Brini Maxwell couldn't have dolled it up better.
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What about all the nice TV adds airing for the Army? XD
"I want to go to college. I need this."
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They need some realism.
"The Armed Services! All the gay sex a man can handle!"
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I'm glad Bush won just to spite Tom for the 50,000 political threads he's made in the past 5 months.
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I'm glad Bush won just to spite Tom for the 50,000 political threads he's made in the past 5 months.
Just imagine all the new ones now. ^_^
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I'm still vastly confused as to why you should even give a continental shit.
cause...
1) cause i looove i was the only one who knew this, even tho there were polls from like weeks ago predicting this
2) cause i feel like it
3) cause i feel like it
4) cause i feel like it.
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So you were the only one who knew, even though a lot of people knew?
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I propose, since Faye is a Bush loving illegal alien, that we:
A) Ban her ugly nazi ass.
B) Lynch her
C) Rape her
D) Send her back to her third world country
E) all of the above.
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Actually, if Faye is here on a student visa (which she probably is), then she can't be deported till her visa expires.
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dude ive said a thousand times that if i could i would leave this country, fuck it , for me, peru is way better.
btw doug, u think you are the shit because u were born here? im more fucking legal than your ancestors when they came here, so please do shut the fuck up. its people like you that make the rest of the world hate americans
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I don't hate you because you're foreign, I hate you because you seem to love Bush to death even though you don't even know all the facts about the Government around here, and you can't even vote. Not to mention that it shouldn't even matter to you who wins unless you decide to live here permanantly.
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dude ive said a thousand times that if i could i would leave this country, fuck it , for me, peru is way better.
YAY CHAGAS DISEASE AND THIRD WORLD POVERTY!
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i dont love bush to death. i just find it funny how this board has suddenly turned out to be a political board and everyone is against bush, therefore i like him. plus i do know about the republican party and i like their ideas. ideas i wont discuss about cause i dislike the fact that now almost 70% of the topics in this board are about politics
plus i still dont like that pro abortion thing
chagas disease?what is that?maybe some puertorican thing? ive never heard about it before
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o.o;
It's a disease that affects from Mexico to Argentina. I don't know why you keep thinking all I know about is Puerto Rico, I've never even studied Puerto Rico.
Chagas disease is spread by the assassin bug/kissing bug.
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I'm honestly surprised you all aren't typing up and distributing your own bimonthly, 1 page, conspiracy newsletters.
Christ. It's not the end of the fucking world. Get a hold of yourselves
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it is the end of the world.
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No shit. After we invade someone else, the Russians will probably nuke us.
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I'm in disbelief that he won. It's so depressing.
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And 10%! FTW!
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yup, better get fitted for those army boots kiddies.
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Not me! I have asthma! You better believe I will milk that fucker.
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:lol: !!!
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Christ. It's not the end of the fucking world. Get a hold of yourselves
You have no idea how seriously fucking scared I am of the next four years.
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They need some realism.
"The Armed Services! All the gay sex a man can handle!"
.... <_< .......
i dont love bush to death. i just find it funny how this board has suddenly turned out to be a political board and everyone is against bush, therefore i like him. plus i do know about the republican party and i like their ideas. ideas i wont discuss about cause i dislike the fact that now almost 70% of the topics in this board are about politics
plus i still dont like that pro abortion thing
What!? :o
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I think it's funny that Faye expresses a surprise that a board populated with Americans should care about political topics... WHEN IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR/MONTH AND WE'RE ELECTING OUR PRESIDENT. OMG. FTW. Come on now.
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Well she is from a dictatorship, where the only time there is a change, she has to hide in the basement for three months with Dirty Julio.
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I have a cousin named Julio and he's not the least bit dirty. You take that back!
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Dirty.... well no hispanic name I pick will work.
DIRTY HEINDRICH! HA! I KEEP THE NAZI JOKES ENTERTWINED BECUASE OF NURI!
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Dirty.... well no hispanic name I pick will work.
Paco. Juan. Esteban.
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everyone is against bush, therefore i like him.
Well, there's my answer. :rolleyes:
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AND the abortion shit.
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Abortion won't go away, it's been around since the dawn of man, and banning 'clean' abortions means women getting in great risk. If they are going to hell, we can't stop them. Banning it won't stop abortion.
Being pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion. It means pro-women.
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What the fuck did Sam mean when he said not to use the "people are going to do it anyway" arguement? Why should we not? :unsure: It's the primary reason that abortion is not a debatable issue. It's not like gun control, or artistic liscense and the restriction thereof....... abortion is an issue upon which one decides to be correct or incorrect.
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Sam lives in the fantasy world that laws make people do things, not proper up bringning.
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I'm not picking on Sam or anyone against abortion. I still go back to my original question from weeks ago - what are those against abortion doing to assist unwanted children other than making sure they get here? Maybe part of why I'm pro-choice is that I don't feel that I have the right to roll the dice with another human being's quality of life. Is a bad life better than a pre-existence death, which I also consider giving the soul passage back to its maker? I don't think so, and THAT is the basis for my stance.
Personally, I think everyone who protests outside a clinic should be leaving with an "unadoptable" (i.e., crack, AIDS, special needs, or untrendy minority) baby to raise.
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If anything, banning abortion would bring back the Age of Coathanger. Not to mention that even if abortion is outlawed, the rich will always be able to afford those "European ski vacations" whenever their daughters have an "accident".
While I can at least respect the anti-abortion stance because of it being a form of murder (that in itself being a subject of debate), how does that explain the anti-birth control stance that seems to be echoed out there with it some of the time? What about all of those stories posted on the Brats board I've read about women going through heck to be sterilized? Not to have an abortion but to be STERILIZED. And how are eggs and sperm any less valuable that their output, a cluster of cells? Should ovaries and testicles get rights, too? What about the morning-after pill? How come people bother becoming pharmacists and then feel they have the right to deny other people medication? What about orphanages and the whole "not in my neighborhood" stance?
I think it's far too easy to say "No abortion!" I personally would feel horrible about killing something in my own body (even if I do view pregnancy as having a parasite) but that's me. I shouldn't have a say over other women's bodies and neither should anyone else.
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Bernie, do feel free to "pick on" pro-life supporters.
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That is not Bernie's way. Tempt her not into evil.
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Tempt her into Eddie.
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Nah, he won't do strap-ons, Megs. He does all the pitching. :)
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He's missing out, I'm sure.
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Megs knows this from experience.
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What are you insinuating, that I've had sex with Eddie? :huh:
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It's possible!
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yay! gay pr0n!
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I'm not picking on Sam or anyone against abortion. I still go back to my original question from weeks ago - what are those against abortion doing to assist unwanted children other than making sure they get here? Maybe part of why I'm pro-choice is that I don't feel that I have the right to roll the dice with another human being's quality of life. Is a bad life better than a pre-existence death, which I also consider giving the soul passage back to its maker? I don't think so, and THAT is the basis for my stance.
Personally, I think everyone who protests outside a clinic should be leaving with an "unadoptable" (i.e., crack, AIDS, special needs, or untrendy minority) baby to raise.
I know my church, and many others, run many charities. Orphanages, counseling and aid for unwed mothers, collecting and providing food, clothing and shelter for those that need it, but that's really beside the point.
My stance basically boils down to my belief that it's not fair to put the discomfort of one person (ok, the agony, with the childbirth) above the death of another. Especially when that death is of someone that is the height of innocence.
And, excuse the phrase, but I don't feel it's our place to "play God", deciding who gets to live and who doesn't. Is death better than a bad life? I don't know, and I don't think I, or anyone else is in the position to decide that for another person.
But, if you don't believe the fetus is alive, then my argument is meaningless, which is really where the real debate lay.
That being said, I think I'm taking a vacation from this board for a while. At least until this election year shit has passed.
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I'm not picking on Sam or anyone against abortion. I still go back to my original question from weeks ago - what are those against abortion doing to assist unwanted children other than making sure they get here? Maybe part of why I'm pro-choice is that I don't feel that I have the right to roll the dice with another human being's quality of life. Is a bad life better than a pre-existence death, which I also consider giving the soul passage back to its maker? I don't think so, and THAT is the basis for my stance.
Personally, I think everyone who protests outside a clinic should be leaving with an "unadoptable" (i.e., crack, AIDS, special needs, or untrendy minority) baby to raise.
I know my church, and many others, run many charities. Orphanages, counseling and aid for unwed mothers, collecting and providing food, clothing and shelter for those that need it, but that's really beside the point.
My stance basically boils down to my belief that it's not fair to put the discomfort of one person (ok, the agony, with the childbirth) above the death of another. Especially when that death is of someone that is the height of innocence.
And, excuse the phrase, but I don't feel it's our place to "play God", deciding who gets to live and who doesn't. Is death better than a bad life? I don't know, and I don't think I, or anyone else is in the position to decide that for another person.
But, if you don't believe the fetus is alive, then my argument is meaningless, which is really where the real debate lay.
That being said, I think I'm taking a vacation from this board for a while. At least until this election year shit has passed.
There is a bond between mother and child. It can't be broken, and forms, and even if it's a bad situation, the hormones call the mother to do wierd things. Since you're not a mother, nor am I, we have no right to judge someone's feelings. What you want to do is the same, just because some cells get killed doesn't matter. If God decrees it bad, then he can punish the person. But don't go by the bible or 'religion', cuz then you're being obtuse.
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You can't legislate morals.
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Especially when morals are proven wrong.
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And, excuse the phrase, but I don't feel it's our place to "play God", deciding who gets to live and who doesn't.
Deciding everyone has to live is still playing God.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240)
NEW YORK - Here’s an interesting little sidebar of our system of government confirmed recently by the crack Countdown research staff: no Presidential candidate’s concession speech is legally binding. The only determinants of the outcome of election are the reports of the state returns boards and the vote of the Electoral College.
That’s right. Richard Nixon may have phoned John Kennedy in November, 1960, and congratulated him through clenched teeth. But if the FBI had burst into Kennedy headquarters in Chicago a week later and walked out with all the file cabinets and a bunch of employees with their raincoats drawn up over their heads, nothing Nixon had said would’ve prevented him, and not JFK, from taking the oath of office the following January.
This is mentioned because there is a small but blood-curdling set of news stories that right now exists somewhere between the world of investigative journalism, and the world of the Reynolds Wrap Hat. And while the group’s ultimate home remains unclear - so might our election of just a week ago.
Stories like these have filled the web since the tide turned against John Kerry late Tuesday night. But not until Friday did they begin to spill into the more conventional news media. That’s when the Cincinnati Enquirer reported that officials in Warren County, Ohio, had “locked down” its administration building to prevent anybody from observing the vote count there.
Gotcha. Tom Ridge thought Osama Bin Laden was planning to hit Caesar Creek State Park in Waynesville. During the vote count in Lebanon. Or maybe it was Kings Island Amusement Park that had gone Code-Orange without telling anybody. Al-Qaeda had selected Turtlecreek Township for its first foray into a Red State.
More in the article.
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I'm not getting my hopes up.
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It's funny, the whole abortion debate.
Abortion has only been morally wrong for the past 200 years or not even that. Before, women would secretly use contraceptives and even have natural abortions using herbs or forced labor.
Why? Necessity.
If you're a poor farm phesant, you can't afford to have a lot of kids, so you have to either decide to keep the kid and starve, or get rid of it. And oh so many people aborted the fetus, or tried to, rather than have yet another mouth to feed. It was necessary.
As I've already mentioned, Romans chucked their unwanted babies in the trash. What would you rather have, safe abortions, or unsafe abortions and infacide?
The whole abortion debate is moot anyway. Once you get the government to ban abortion and regulate marrage, what will they regulate next? The air you breathe? When will it get to the point where the big G will regulate everything and it will look Orwellian around here?
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Exactly. People don't get that banning something doesn't stop it. Education is the only thing that stops it. Murder's been illegal for how long?
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I'm not picking on Sam or anyone against abortion. I still go back to my original question from weeks ago - what are those against abortion doing to assist unwanted children other than making sure they get here? Maybe part of why I'm pro-choice is that I don't feel that I have the right to roll the dice with another human being's quality of life. Is a bad life better than a pre-existence death, which I also consider giving the soul passage back to its maker? I don't think so, and THAT is the basis for my stance.
Personally, I think everyone who protests outside a clinic should be leaving with an "unadoptable" (i.e., crack, AIDS, special needs, or untrendy minority) baby to raise.
I know my church, and many others, run many charities. Orphanages, counseling and aid for unwed mothers, collecting and providing food, clothing and shelter for those that need it, but that's really beside the point.
My stance basically boils down to my belief that it's not fair to put the discomfort of one person (ok, the agony, with the childbirth) above the death of another. Especially when that death is of someone that is the height of innocence.
And, excuse the phrase, but I don't feel it's our place to "play God", deciding who gets to live and who doesn't. Is death better than a bad life? I don't know, and I don't think I, or anyone else is in the position to decide that for another person.
But, if you don't believe the fetus is alive, then my argument is meaningless, which is really where the real debate lay.
AMEN!
That being said, I think I'm taking a vacation from this board for a while. At least until this election year shit has passed.
awww noooo, damnit! :(
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The air you breathe is regulated.
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And not very well!
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No, Sam, don't go. I was going to bring up the wonderful job some of our local churches do, most of them Catholic, in supporting women with unwanted pregnancies. Nice to see some establishments walking the walk for a change.
Please understand that I grew up during a time of what looked like endless possiblilty for women. That's turned out to be a crock as social pressures want to inexorably shove us back into being nothing more that ambulatory incubators, and we'd damn well better learn to shut up and like it, whether we like it or not. There are other kinds of death than physical; however, this society places primary value on youth. As soon as a woman becomes pregnant, her value, desires, ambitions, hopes, etc. become secondary to the almighty zygote. Don't believe me? Already in Arkansas, a law is on the books giving all pregnant women free medical care.
I was always taught not to do something that would create a problem before I had my previous problems solved, if I could help it. Where will all of the forced birth kids go to school, considering that public school overcrowding is near epidemic in metro areas? Who takes care of them while their mothers work 2 or 3 minimum-wage jobs because the babydaddy couldn't be bothered to stick around? With more and more entry-level jobs being outsourced, qualifications will become higher for the jobs that are left - who's going to hire all these kids? Maybe things are better elsewhere, but here in the heart of Dubya Country, an MBA qualifies one to manage a Pizza Hut.
Adoption, you say? There's another problem. The screening process for adoption includes extremely intrusive background investigations. I've been on medication to regulate chemical depression for over 10 years and couldn't adopt if I wanted to, PLUS the fee is anywhere from $10,000 to $25,000, depending on the age & "desirablilty" of what one wants to adopt. White infants are consider the top prize, with older black & latino kids being the cheapest. Why go through all of that when one can make a little replicant with IVF treatment paid for by one's insurance company at an average of $62,000 per couple?? Besides, society still sees adopting children as "settling" for something lesser - I still haven't figured that out.
Make adoption easier and less expensive, cut benefits for IVF & fertility drugs, and I'll start backing off. That's an immediate band-aid that will hold for a little while. The job & school problem will take at least another full generation, longer if we have another baby boom.
And Doug's absolutely right - it's going to be made illegal, so I think everyone here who's anti-choice should be happy. Eddie & I are taking our personal responsibility by ending our chances of reproduction for good, so that's one couple who won't be adding to the problem. Anyone who wants kids, great - I ask only 3 things:
1) Don't breed what you can't feed
2) Realize the job is FOREVER.
3) Realize that your primary responsibility is to instruct & guide this small being toward successful participation in adult society, just like every other animal on the planet, so BE a fucking PARENT, not a buddy.
There - end of rant.
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Jesus crap.
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:lol: It's like I've always said, if I had the choice I would be easily tempted to go back in time and have myself aborted. I pretty much agree with Bernie on all on her points. Old people getting the shaft is pretty damn sad. THEY should have free medical care, not some knocked up whore.
That reminds me, this movie's coming about an abortionist called "Vera Drake". I didn't even know it was about an abortionist until I read a review in the local alternative newspaper. Stupid tv previews.
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No opinions were personal attacks, Sam, and I think we're vented out. C'mon back? :huh:
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He'll be back eventually. Give him plenty of time and water his plants while he's gone.
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Or just say "fuck him". That oughtta work as well as anything else.
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I'll pass.
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You'll pass fucking anybody.
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I hate driving sometimes...
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love you sam-on-the-bone, dont gooo
Adoption, you say? There's another problem. The screening process for adoption includes extremely intrusive background investigations. I've been on medication to regulate chemical depression for over 10 years and couldn't adopt if I wanted to, PLUS the fee is anywhere from $10,000 to $25,000, depending on the age & "desirablilty" of what one wants to adopt. White infants are consider the top prize, with older black & latino kids being the cheapest. Why go through all of that when one can make a little replicant with IVF treatment paid for by one's insurance company at an average of $62,000 per couple?? Besides, society still sees adopting children as "settling" for something lesser - I still haven't figured that out.
Yea this bothers me as well, id surely get my application chucked once they found out im trans, not to mention id probably be in a gay relationship which some states wont even allow to adopt a child, though my partner could as a single....
whatever thats still many years off, but Id still like the chance to help shape a little human.
I certainly think Id be a good mommy.
I doubt I could ever afford to adopt, only rich well-to-do people could afford to at that rate, and i dont think ill be accepted in any high paying jobs in my lifetime, but hey i dont care about having lots and lots of money.
I just want myself and everyone else to be happy and comfortable.
I dont see adoption as settling, i dont think I would want to burden another human with my genetic makeup even if i wasnt sterile.
I think it would be pretty cool to have a little latino son btw
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I always wanted to wait for a good dark-skinned woman to have children with, just to de-white my family. But things don't work out that way, it turns out. :rolleyes: You have to fall in love with a trashy blonde.
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I have an ancestor from India. Apparently she was passed off as Caucasian by her English husband , which I had always thought was bullshit until someone from India told me that many people from Northern India have blue-grey eyes, and she was from around Kashmir.
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*nods* they are the Sikhs I believe. One of my all time favorite models, Sunny Leone is a Sikh. HOT.
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There's always paint, Meg.
And post some pictures, Tom.
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Porn Model Sunny Leone? (http://images.google.com/images?q=sunny%20leone&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wi)
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THAT IS HER!
Too bad all Indian chicks don't look like her. Still, Kary is better.
But I swear, when she was on Howard Stern, talking about her first time with two girls...
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THAT IS HER!
Too bad all Indian chicks don't look like her. Still, Kary is better.
But I swear, when she was on Howard Stern, talking about her first time with two girls...
When people say 'Model' I expect something more along the lines of runway or some form of models who keep at least 5-15% of their clothes on.
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Yeah same here. Oops.
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There's always paint, Meg.
And post some pictures, Tom.
Hehn heh heh.
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THAT IS HER!
Too bad all Indian chicks don't look like her. Still, Kary is better.
But I swear, when she was on Howard Stern, talking about her first time with two girls...
When people say 'Model' I expect something more along the lines of runway or some form of models who keep at least 5-15% of their clothes on.
She's trying to break into legit modeling. I think her eyes are incredible.