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Title: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Nov 30, 2009, 07:23:49 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml

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A few days after leaked e-mail messages appeared on the Internet, the U.S. Congress may probe whether prominent scientists who are advocates of global warming theories misrepresented the truth about climate change.

Sen. James Inhofe, an Oklahoma Republican, said on Monday the leaked correspondence suggested researchers "cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not," according to a transcript of a radio interview posted on his Web site. Aides for Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican, are also looking into the disclosure.

The leaked documents (see our previous coverage) come from the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in eastern England. In global warming circles, the CRU wields outsize influence: it claims the world's largest temperature data set, and its work and mathematical models were incorporated into the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's 2007 report. That report, in turn, is what the Environmental Protection Agency acknowledged it "relies on most heavily" when concluding that carbon dioxide emissions endanger public health and should be regulated.

Last week's leaked e-mails range from innocuous to embarrassing and, critics believe, scandalous. They show that some of the field's most prominent scientists were so wedded to theories of man-made global warming that they ridiculed dissenters who asked for copies of their data ("have to respond to more crap criticisms from the idiots"), cheered the deaths of skeptical journalists, and plotted how to keep researchers who reached different conclusions from publishing in peer-reviewed journals.

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Complicating matters for congressional Republicans who'd like to hold hearings is that East Anglia, of course, is a U.K. university. The GOP may intend to press the Obama administration for details on how the EPA came to rely on the CRU's predictions, and whether the recent disclosure will change the agency's position. Another approach lies in e-mail messages discussing grants from the U.S. Commerce Department's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to East Anglia; one says: "We need to show some left to cover the costs of the trip Roger didn't make and also the fees/equipment/computer money we haven't spent otherwise NOAA will be suspicious."

The irony of this situation is that most of us expect science to be conducted in the open, without unpublished secret data, hidden agendas, and computer programs of dubious reliability. East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit might have avoided this snafu by publicly disclosing as much as possible at every step of the way.

tl;dr, the US Scientists based everything on bad data from the UK (including a shitty computer program that produced bad data) and now the US Republicans are flipping out because abortion things have probably stalled. Considering this was one of the mildest summers in the North East (which was great!), I laugh at Al Gore's multiple chins. THANK GOD TIGER DIDN'T HIT GLOBAL WARMING WITH HIS CAR!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Nov 30, 2009, 11:51:50 AM
So, isn't this just one lab? Aren't there others doing this kind of research, too?
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Nov 30, 2009, 12:19:42 PM
Apparently not, everyone based their research on this one lab's figures as the base. While they did do their own research, it was only based upon faulty research. It's easy to prove the world is flat if you ignore the math.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Nov 30, 2009, 03:30:11 PM
I just don't understand. When has Science come up with something and then refused to listen to anyone that might have a different take on things? I mean that's so unlike them.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Nov 30, 2009, 03:35:37 PM
Yeah, almost sounds like a religion.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Nov 30, 2009, 04:46:46 PM
Atheism is the rejection of all religion, MAN! ESTABLISHMENT, MAN!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Nov 30, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
I just think its funny that some atheists can be so dogmatic. Yes, I realize that 'atheists' don't have a 'dogma,' but its the best word I can think of to describe what I mean.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Nov 30, 2009, 06:47:20 PM
They have a dogma, it's called Richard Dawkins.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Nov 30, 2009, 07:37:36 PM
Not all atheists fap to Dawkins, nor do all Christians adhere to Catholicism, so that's moot.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: gwynn on Nov 30, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
My brother is crazy about Dawkins. I just think its even more fanaticism.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Nov 30, 2009, 09:05:01 PM
Not all atheists fap to Dawkins, nor do all Christians adhere to Catholicism, so that's moot.
Most Christians aren't Catholic.

Dawkins is a wierdo, but I love how people continue to form opinions based on single moments that in the grand scheme are meaningless. Penn and Teller did the best episode about Global Warming where in the 1970s were convinced that we were creating another ice age. Now we fall into further hysteria over melting ice caps because of a blockbuster movie (Day After Tomorrow) and Al Gore's documentary. When the science is debunked, it shows the problems that we have when we jump to things.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Nov 30, 2009, 10:26:58 PM
Someone should do a documentary on our hysteria.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Nov 30, 2009, 11:56:10 PM
Those people are such idiots.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm working on my 2012 survival kit. The Mayans predicted it you know.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 01, 2009, 12:02:19 AM
My Dad's girlfriend believes that it's true. Kary felt like strangling her. But what can we do, he's 67 and she's 33.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Dec 01, 2009, 12:06:34 AM
Wait about 2 years.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 01, 2009, 12:19:08 AM
It occurs on my Mom's birthday, too. If the world were to end, it would be on December 21st.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 01, 2009, 01:12:48 AM
That's kind of awesome. Maybe I'll impregnate a girl and have her birth it that day.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 03, 2009, 12:07:11 PM
lol wtf, fiero
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: gwynn on Dec 03, 2009, 04:28:23 PM
You'll have to time that juuuuust right. Or ball park it and induce that shit.

Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Dec 03, 2009, 05:56:58 PM
That would be really hard. I mean you have to factor in some much stuff and it'll boil down to having one day to attempt it in and then you'd have to find a chick ovulating on that day.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 04, 2009, 04:07:25 AM
That's kind of awesome. Maybe I'll impregnate a girl and have her birth it that day.
As long as it's not my Mom. I couldn't handle that shit and I'd be forced to kill the both of you.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Faye Valentine on Dec 05, 2009, 02:26:16 PM
That would be really hard. I mean you have to factor in some much stuff and it'll boil down to having one day to attempt it in and then you'd have to find a chick ovulating on that day.
Cause a woman can only get pregnant during one specific day per month. Rama you should be a sex ed teacher.

edit: I mean yeah there's on egg but you don't have to.....forget it
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Dec 06, 2009, 01:21:28 AM
Actually I meant so that it could be carried to that date. If you knocked her up a day earlier it'd come on the 20th, day later and it would be the 22nd.

Course you'd also have to know how long she'd carry the child since it's different for every woman. It's not an exact science. Then you'd also have to factor in an early or late birth. It'd just be really hard that's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 07, 2009, 02:28:13 AM
Okay, y'all have dissected this too far.




































That right, I said y'all.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 07, 2009, 05:26:58 AM
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww shit. It's fuckin' on now when Becs goes all rednecky.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Dec 07, 2009, 12:25:31 PM
So unusual given she is from the cradle of refined speaking. I mean when you think proper English, you just have to think Texas. I tell ya what.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 07, 2009, 04:06:52 PM
Got dangit, don't change the subject. That boy ain't right.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 07, 2009, 10:05:46 PM
Ain't right in the head, no nitpicking at that one. Shoot, I bet he ain't even knows how to fire ah rifle.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Dec 07, 2009, 11:51:09 PM
It's spreading!!!

*Boards himself up in a farm house*

Just wait this out. The Army will know what to do. Just stay here till morning. Yeah...
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 08, 2009, 07:42:22 AM
...huh.

Who wants some cr0n bread?
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 08, 2009, 11:12:03 PM
Ah'll take sum grits!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: gwynn on Dec 09, 2009, 07:25:15 AM
Thank you, I was trying to think of something for breakfast.
I'm all about the grits, oatmeal can eat my ass.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 09, 2009, 10:16:39 AM
Make some with chicken stock and then stir in a little cheese at the end. Or cook it up seperately, let cool, and then put in a hot non-stick frying pan. Both make delicious dishes.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 09, 2009, 03:17:55 PM
I will do none of those things.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 09, 2009, 04:51:13 PM
You fucking... I can't believe this shit. Someone gives you advice and you pass it off? Fuck you. FUCK. You.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 09, 2009, 05:26:03 PM
I don't want to do any of that either.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 09, 2009, 08:15:47 PM
None of it sounds good at all.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 09, 2009, 10:16:59 PM
Especially tom's cheese.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 10, 2009, 05:15:10 AM
What is wrong with some fine havarti?!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 10, 2009, 04:03:53 PM
Nobody wants yer fancy-pants cheese, son!  Now git off mah property!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Dec 10, 2009, 04:44:39 PM
And shotgun in 3...2....1...
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Merla on Dec 10, 2009, 04:57:00 PM
I love havarti!  I had a turkey and havarti sandwich for lunch from the Target deli.  It's the best!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 10, 2009, 05:48:00 PM
I enjoy Target.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 11, 2009, 06:07:23 AM
I love havarti!  I had a turkey and havarti sandwich for lunch from the Target deli.  It's the best!

I love you Merla, and Kary does too. She killed me when I 'withdrew' Havarti's existance from her for a year. One day she saw me eating a slice, asked me why I liked swiss since I don't usually. It's not swiss I replied, so she inquired. I fed her a piece and then she proceeded to eat 3 or 4 slices. I then told her I've been buying it for years. Then she nearly killed me because I never offered her a slice.

And yes, Target does rule.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 11, 2009, 06:37:17 PM
Didn't offer her a slice?  Boo!  You remind me of one of Merla's friends that was all "this sushi is so goooood" and then gobbled it all up without sharing.

I love you Merla, and Kary does too. She killed me when I 'withdrew' Havarti's existance from her for a year.

Withheld?
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 12, 2009, 11:36:28 AM
Whatever, it was 6 in the morning when I posted that.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 14, 2009, 10:24:06 PM
Just clarifying.  :D  For a minute I was all "why he stoled her cheese?"  :blink:
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 15, 2009, 07:00:00 AM
I DONE STOLE'D THAT CHEESE!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Sam on Dec 15, 2009, 12:45:10 PM
Hey, don't take that, that's nacho cheese!
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 15, 2009, 02:37:08 PM
Thank you for ruining things.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 15, 2009, 04:57:03 PM
That was fucking awesome Sam.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rama on Dec 15, 2009, 04:59:28 PM
Huh huh....Seven ate Nine.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 15, 2009, 05:14:36 PM
Orange you glad I didn't say banana?
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 16, 2009, 02:23:23 AM
Banana up your ass.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 16, 2009, 08:06:34 AM
Not the ones I have.  So soft all you get is banana mush.

































What?   :blink:
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 16, 2009, 08:20:34 AM
Great way to prepare for banana bread. Disgusting banana bread no one will ever eat.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 16, 2009, 08:43:39 AM
I'm gonna make some today as a matter of fact.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 16, 2009, 09:11:30 AM
If you record yourself mashing the banana, I can get you 5,000 in internet revenue.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Sam on Dec 16, 2009, 10:52:34 AM
I will eat še banana bread you are making.  I enjoy banana bread.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Faye Valentine on Dec 16, 2009, 07:59:21 PM
I just baked banana muffins last Friday. They were soooooo good! even better if you put some nutella on them om nomnom
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 16, 2009, 09:38:15 PM
Nutella + Toasted Pantera Country Loaf + Fresh cut strawberries and bananas.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 17, 2009, 02:28:40 AM
Banana breads are awesome.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 21, 2009, 11:59:34 AM
I ended up making banana muffins since the muffin recipe is quicker.  They were quite delish,
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Derrick on Dec 21, 2009, 12:48:56 PM
I have to make gingerbread again. I just bought a spice-grinder because Kary said the bigger chunks from me manually grinding them made it too strong. I liked it, anyways.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Fiero on Dec 21, 2009, 05:14:20 PM
FUCK YEAH BIG SPICE CHUNKS
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Faye Valentine on Dec 22, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
I ended up making banana muffins since the muffin recipe is quicker.  They were quite delish,
Did you put some nutella on top? Its sooooo goooooooooood
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: B E C K on Dec 25, 2009, 08:49:05 AM
Nope, I just eat them plain.
Title: Re: Global Warming a hoax?
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jan 02, 2010, 01:17:24 AM
No Rise of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Fraction in Past 160 Years, New Research Finds (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091230184221.htm)

"It is shown that with those uncertainties, the trend in the airborne fraction since 1850 has been 0.7 ± 1.4% per decade, i.e. close to and not significantly different from zero." (http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2009GL040613.shtml)

500 Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skepticism of "Man-Made" Global Warming (http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html)

It's far from a "settled science".