The Sphere
General Garbage => Tropical Paradise of Hard Shelled Fruits => Topic started by: Derrick on Nov 12, 2009, 05:44:24 AM
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/prof_busted_in_columbia_gal_punch_JmsXQ3NzaAt8uG6uUySGTN
A prominent Columbia architecture professor punched a female university employee in the face at a Harlem bar during a heated argument about race relations, cops said yesterday.
Police busted Lionel McIntyre, 59, for assault yesterday after his bruised victim, Camille Davis, filed charges.
McIntyre and Davis, who works as a production manager in the school's theater department, are both regulars at Toast, a popular university bar on Broadway and 125th Street, sources said.
The professor, who is black, had been engaged in a fiery discussion about "white privilege" with Davis, who is white, and another male regular, who is also white, Friday night at 10:30 when fists started flying, patrons said.
McIntyre, who is known as "Mac" at the bar, shoved Davis, and when the other patron and a bar employee tried to break it up, the prof slugged Davis in the face, witnesses said.
"The punch was so loud, the kitchen workers in the back heard it over all the noise," bar back Richie Velez, 28, told The Post. "I was on my way over when he punched Camille and she fell on top of me."
The other patron involved in the dispute said McIntyre then took a swing at him after he yelled, "You don't hit a woman!"
"He knocked the glasses right off my face," said the man, who would only give his first name as "Shannon." "The punch came out of nowhere. Mac was talking to us about white privilege and what I was doing about it -- apparently I wasn't doing enough."
McIntyre had squabbled with Davis several weeks earlier over issues involving race, witnesses said. As soon as the professor threw the punch Friday, server Rob Dalton and another employee tossed him out.
"It was a real sucker punch," Dalton said. "Camille's a great lady, always nice to everybody, and doesn't deserve anything like this."
Davis was spotted wearing sunglasses yesterday to conceal the black eye. Reached at her Columbia office, she declined to comment on the alleged attack.
McIntyre was released without bail at his arraignment last night.
"It was a very unfortunate event," he said afterwards. "I didn't mean for it to explode the way it did."
How is this not top news? Why isn't this being classed as racist and a hate crime? White privilege, lol. Black Professor hitting a white member of staff while a black man occupies the white house is funny, given the fact that she wasn't a professor and Hillary had no chance at reaching that office. There's much more of a gender privilege.
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It's a bullshit crime. I'm sure hitting a woman will go far in supporting his cause.
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There is no such thing as reverse racism. Racism is racism.
And wouldn't it be both a hate crime and racism?
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In my book, yes.
But the legal system will probably only see it as a hate crime if a white man hits a black woman.
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The whole hate crime idea is a crock of bull. Crime is crime...does it really matter what the motivation is? No, it doesn't. Treat all of it the same: harshly.
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Is the bolding yours, Derrick? I see nothing in that article to support the implication that he was released without bail just because he was black.
There is no such thing as reverse racism.
Yeah, I mean, wouldn't the reverse just be... well, non-racism?
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Reverse-racism is actually better described as a counter-response in kind.
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Is the bolding yours, Derrick? I see nothing in that article to support the implication that he was released without bail just because he was black.
There is no such thing as reverse racism.
Yeah, I mean, wouldn't the reverse just be... well, non-racism?
The bolding was mine, for emphasis. This story is another example of the endemic problem of white guilt and white paternalism that is going to do more harm than good in the long run. The story was no where on CNN.com, and the racial websites of course took their own sides. Racism is racism, but reverse racism is a symbol of paternalism toward minorities. The people who shelve these stories are white, not black or any other ethnicity. It's shelved because it raises questions that most whites are either afraid of, or that they are so convinced don't matter that they are irrelevant.
The bigger question is how this ties into the professor earlier who bitched out the cop who was responding to a legit call. I know the black supremicist type, I've read their history books. It's an obsolete thought in American, African, and Atlantic studies (only hacks who are convinced every white person knows someone in the KKK calls it 'African-American' studies, an African American is someone who emmigrates from Africa and becomes naturalized) yet this thought persists in black academia. It's endemic, considering the hatred present within these people and the papers and books they publish.
Tell me if a White man hitting a black subordinate would have garnered the same reaction and a lack of bail? Tell me it wouldn't be non-existant on cnn.com and msnbc.com.
Eh, it was early anyways. This shit does nothing but foster fear, ignorance, and stagnation. Without stories like this, the media will only report white-on-black crime and perpetuate that racism can only be performed by whites afraid of a slave-baby.
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It's shelved because it raises questions that most whites are either afraid of, or that they are so convinced don't matter that they are irrelevant.
Sounds like your problem. Ha ha, no, no, I kid. I see what you're saying in your post, but I don't see evidence to support the claim that he got off because of white guilt. Isn't it reverse? Doesn't this type of stuff happen all the time, people getting released without bail? Do you really consider a man punching a woman in the face because he lost his tempter to be newsworthy?
Tell me if a White man hitting a black subordinate would have garnered the same reaction and a lack of bail? Tell me it wouldn't be non-existant on cnn.com and msnbc.com.
Isn't THAT white guilt? Colored folks don't have majority control over the justice system or the media. I don't think white guilt is hiding anything in this instance, I think it's just not thrusting it forward into the spotlight.
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The NAACP would be in an outrage if the reverse of this story happened.
As it is, they probably didn't read past, "black man hits white woman."
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All I see is a jackass who hit a chick for no rational reason. I don't care if said jackass is black, white, or polka-dotted; I also don't care if his racial hang-ups were at the root of it. He knew better than to do it, he lost his temper, and he should pay for it on that basis, but no other. Charge him with assault and battery and leave the hate crime BS out of it.
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It's shelved because it raises questions that most whites are either afraid of, or that they are so convinced don't matter that they are irrelevant.
Sounds like your problem. Ha ha, no, no, I kid. I see what you're saying in your post, but I don't see evidence to support the claim that he got off because of white guilt. Isn't it reverse? Doesn't this type of stuff happen all the time, people getting released without bail? Do you really consider a man punching a woman in the face because he lost his tempter to be newsworthy?
Tell me if a White man hitting a black subordinate would have garnered the same reaction and a lack of bail? Tell me it wouldn't be non-existant on cnn.com and msnbc.com.
Isn't THAT white guilt? Colored folks don't have majority control over the justice system or the media. I don't think white guilt is hiding anything in this instance, I think it's just not thrusting it forward into the spotlight.
It is white guilt and paternalism. These cases aren't presented as is along with other 'racial' stories, and it does a diservice to American cultures. What we have is a society that makes a big deal of white-on-black offenses and strays from the reverse. What results is a black population convinced every white person is in the KKK and waiting to do something, and a white population wondering why the guy breaking into the house on the security system commercials is always a white guy and never a black guy.
I wonder if Obama will call the woman an idiot that acted stupidly.
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The NAACP would be in an outrage if the reverse of this story happened.
As it is, they probably didn't read past, "black man hits white woman."
Al Sharpton probably laughed. Then he stuck a thumb in a woman's butt.
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All I see is a jackass who hit a chick for no rational reason. I don't care if said jackass is black, white, or polka-dotted; I also don't care if his racial hang-ups were at the root of it. He knew better than to do it, he lost his temper, and he should pay for it on that basis, but no other. Charge him with assault and battery and leave the hate crime BS out of it.
QFT.
The NAACP would be in an outrage if the reverse of this story happened.
As it is, they probably didn't read past, "black man hits white woman."
Well, they are "for the Advancement of Colored People". In all fairness, their focus is on colored people in trouble or in the midst of injustice. They aren't likely to do a story on some angry guy doing a disservice to their cause.
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Well still, fuck those guys.
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In their hairy assholes.
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With their dingleberries.
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Road bumps to pure ecstacy.
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Whether this is newsworthy or not is only relevant in the context that the reverse would be deemed newsworthy. Which is part of Tom's point.
The whole hate crime concept is retarded, but if this isn't tried as one then it's biased and hypocritical as well.
If he does get hit with a hate crime, at least then this will probably get some coverage.
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It's buried, never to see the light of day. Just like the 4 marines that killed their CO, but not before raping his wife and killing her in front of him. Why? They were in an interracial relationship, and the Marine subordinates didn't like it. They staged it as a robbery but were too dumb to not get caught (as most criminals are).
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/04/03/2009-04-03_grim_twist_in_tortureslay_of_marine_sgt_.html
Just sick, but again it was never reported. Yet! Nappy headed hoes demanded the airwaves and print for months.
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Yep, never heard about that.
This really is ridiculous. I hope all of these stories are compiled and brought to light someday on a discovery channel special. Of course whoever makes the special will be immediately scorned as a racist for doing so.
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It won't be on Discovery. Maybe on Fox News.
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We all know the news has fucked up priorities anyway. Hell, yesterday, I must've seen eight different clips on the same channel about a cat that climbed on a police officer while he was issuing a ticket. "Look at that cat" "Cat climbs on officer" "A cat climbs on police officer"... Was there nothing else, really? Pretty damn sad we don't hear more about these types of stories.
Whether this is newsworthy or not is only relevant in the context that the reverse would be deemed newsworthy. Which is part of Tom's point.
I know most of you will disagree, but I don't even consider the reverse newsworthy. At least not any further than a blurb. [That other story Tom posted, however, definetely should've been plastered everywhere.]
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I'm not saying that the reverse actually is newsworthy I'm saying it would be deemed so...which is sad.
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Still, all this beats swine flu!
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I'd rather watch a cat climb on five police officers then have to hear anything about any kind of flu again.
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What if the police officer had swine flu? Also, he appeared to be white but the cat was BLACK. Discuss.
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Goddamned Liberal media. Or is it right-wing media diluting race relations?!
I never know anymore.
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link to cat cop climb plox
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Damn you, IDE, I was looking for a link and came across this sad shit (http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/weird/therapy_rabbits_stabbed_to_death). Fuck you. FUCK YOU. *sob* Here's *sniff* your link, bitch. http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/weird/cat_climbs_atop_traffic_cop
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Poor bunnies.
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I'm not clickin on anything sad.
That cat is gangsta though. I like how the cop tries to get away and the cat is like "where u goin fucker! I'm not done with you!"
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The bunnies died! Bunnies that made dying cancer people feel less die-ey! There were found STABBED. TO. DEATH. Someone murdered bunnies!
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I blame the Jews.
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It's buried, never to see the light of day. Just like the 4 marines that killed their CO, but not before raping his wife and killing her in front of him. Why? They were in an interracial relationship, and the Marine subordinates didn't like it. They staged it as a robbery but were too dumb to not get caught (as most criminals are).
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/04/03/2009-04-03_grim_twist_in_tortureslay_of_marine_sgt_.html
Just sick, but again it was never reported. Yet! Nappy headed hoes demanded the airwaves and print for months.
I saw the part about "N*gger lover" being written on the walls and expected the marines to be white rednecks. Imagine my surprise to see they were all black. It just strikes me as odd that a bunch of blacks would write "n*gger lover" on the wall or have any problem with a white person dating a black person.
I'm assuming that Tom's trying to say that because it's a racial crime of blacks against whites it gets little attention, than if say it was a bunch of whites killing a black like I though it was. Heaven forbid that a black person can be racist against white people.. oh they can never be that way.
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And it does nothing but foster anger between the two, since whites see the lack of news on it and feel hate to whites and blacks see news of whites hatin on blacks and think we all hate negroes. We do, but we don't act on it.
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I don't hate black people. I hate gangstas and thugs.
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Isn't that really most of them?
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No. I know quite a few black people who are not those kinds of people, and they can be quite a delight to associate with.
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In my first round of college I had a friend of the black persuasion who took great pleasure in purposefully wearing his afro and stereotypical gangsta garb when going to the bank. Funny thing was, ol' Hymiar was fully aware of the whispering and sideways glances and, in fact, revelled in it.
Last time I talked to the guy, he'd shaved his head and was about to marry his white girlfriend. Hope nobody breaks in his house and kills them and writes "honkey lover" on the walls.
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It just strikes me as odd that a bunch of blacks would write "n*gger lover" on the wall or have any problem with a white person dating a black person.
Why does that seem odd to you? Black people can use that word just as hatefully as white people. And the desire to not have one date outside their race is not a solely white trait.
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They all use it, too.
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Shut-up, cracker.
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I love crackers, especially stone-ground wheat crackers. Mmm.
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Those'll go great with the sandwich and fig newtons from the other thread! Someone post about drinks now.
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Seriously, how is it an insult when you insinuate me whipping a negro? I think that's a compliment.
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Kinky.
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How does "nigger lover" insuniate whipping?
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That's honkey.
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How does honkey insinuate whipping?
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Come by my house in an hour, and I'll let ya know. ;)
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Just lay back and think of England Fiero.
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There will always been an England.
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Robert Englund? I've been told I look like him.
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Ew.
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I know right.
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Robert Englund? I've been told I look like him.
Dude, fucking Freddy? Do you at least have the matching shirt?
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Can we light you on fire and see if you can pull Freddy off?
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I had one of those shirts but grew out of it.
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Go buy a bigger size then. Or ask for one for Christmas. That would rule.
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I don't hate black people. I hate gangstas and thugs.
Don't come to Philly. ever.
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I won't.
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I've been there. Took a walk downtown in the "bad" neighborhoods with my friends Caren and Lisbet. 3 White girls just wandering around.
It was too cold for the hoods to be out. Also, I think there was a Jay Z concert going on next to our hotel.
I didn't even think that we could be in any danger. *shrug*
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Everyone in Philly is dangerous. They enjoy their cop killings and the riots afterwards.
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While eating cream cheese.
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Plus the soggy cheesesteaks.
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But it's always Sunny there.
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WILDCARD, BITCHES! YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW!
They will still jam you up.
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You know what, if the charachters in IASIP actually existed, that would be enough reason to visit there. Especially coffee shop girl. *groan of pleasure*
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The actress is real. She is married to Charlie.
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I know that. I want to put some cream in her sugar.
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I've never watched that show, post me up a pic of that "coffee shop girl".
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Heh not impressed, I'd have to see her in motion doing a scene makin some coffees.
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I prefer her to Sweet Dee, but above all else I think Artemis is hot, even if she's a bit thick.
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http://www.hulu.com/watch/5391/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-i-slept-with-her
http://www.hulu.com/watch/27441/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-charlie-flexes-his-muscles#s-p24-sr-i1
I hoped there were more clips. Sorry Hulu is fucking stupid about the rating bullshit, the second clip has 0 mature content. Fucking Hulu. I have no idea where else to go for just 'clips,' instead of full episodes.
Charlie is the best part of the show, followed by Frank (Devito).
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I enjoy everyone. I just dled the Christmas special, the intro looked great.
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I need to catch out something fierce.
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What if wasps make something delicious, I don't want to miss that.
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Plus the soggy cheesesteaks.
They are soggy only if you get them delivered to you or you tell them to wrap them up after you buy them. But if you eat them on the spot they are sooooo gooooood
I've been there. Took a walk downtown in the "bad" neighborhoods with my friends Caren and Lisbet. 3 White girls just wandering around.
It was too cold for the hoods to be out. Also, I think there was a Jay Z concert going on next to our hotel.
I didn't even think that we could be in any danger. *shrug*
Well depends on which bad neighborhoods you are talking about. West Philly: ghetto black and asian people. North Philly: latin ghetto, and South Philly: the slimmiest italians you'll ever meet (this one is the worst IMO). Oh and NE Philly: inbreds.
That's why if I'm in Philly I prefer to stay in Center City :3
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I live in Rhode Island. Worst we have are angry Portuguese.
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Kick 'em back over the ocean.
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I live in Rhode Island. Worst we have are angry Portuguese.
One of the guidos that are on "The Jersey Shore" is from RI i think
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Yup, Johnston. It's the little Italy of RI. Fulla guidos. There's even a shit club called 'mardi gras' with 4 clubs inside. All the guidos stick to the dance/club music club.
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Yup, Johnston. It's the little Italy of RI. Fulla guidos. There's even a shit club called 'mardi gras' with 4 clubs inside. All the guidos stick to the dance/club music club.
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Ya know, it's not that far off.
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I always thought a Nintendo themed DDR would be fucking awesome.
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I thought there was one.
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No shit?
HOLY FUCK BOUNCING SHY GUYS! OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!
Also, they could have used that girl toad in NSMBWii. I love the game, but the two identical toads are so boring.
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Ya know, it's not that far off.
Just spike their hair and give them button-up shirts with popped collars?