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General Garbage => Tropical Paradise of Hard Shelled Fruits => Topic started by: The D on Jul 29, 2008, 11:50:58 AM

Title: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: The D on Jul 29, 2008, 11:50:58 AM
Here's a specific article (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/28/church-shooting-police-find-manifesto-suspects-car/), more could be found just by using google (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=Jim+Adkisson).

This guy walks into a Unitarian church during a children's play and starts mowing people down with a shotgun. His reasons for killing people was because he hated liberals, blamed liberals and democrats for his unemployment and for the country being screwed up, and said that all liberals must die and he must be the one to do it.

Obviously he's a psycho, but it makes me wonder if conservatism, Republicans, and the right wing are partially to blame for this. A lot of conservative bullshit seems to be blaming liberals and democrats for EVERYTHING (if a conservative is caught soliciting sex in an airport bathroom, the liberals made him do it), and spouting off crap as if Liberals are evil, anti God, satanists, against Jesus, and all that bull.

I guess that makes it all right to ignore the passage in Exodus 20 that says "Thou shalt not murder." (not thou shalt not kill, since it's apparently all right to stone someone to death if they're a witch or adulterer)

I find it also ironic (and I'd love to rub this in the face of all those conservative gun advocates) that no one in that church had a gun (who would take a gun to church?), and although he was able to kill two people due to the element of suprise, once everyone noticed him, they were able to jump him and subdue him easily without using a gun or deadly force.

Now excuse me while I go spend the rest of the day checking a couple places for a job.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Bernie AKA on Jul 29, 2008, 12:46:12 PM
Most lunatic dickheads like this latch onto an idealogy like a Titantic looking for an iceberg.  His wife dumped him because he threatened to shoot them both - obviously the fault of liberals, gays, etc.  :eyes: Unfortunately, the material he was reading tended to focus on one aspect to blame for all ills, which is very appealing to those who are unhappy and can't determine why.

Unitarians are pretty cool and accepting people.  Ironically, they probably would have welcomed him and all his problems with open arms.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democra
Post by: Rama on Jul 29, 2008, 02:36:59 PM
I think I may have just read one too many D posts.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Jul 29, 2008, 11:01:53 PM
*

Speaking as the resident religious fanatic, Unitarians are about as theologically Christian as my German shepherd...but it's no reason to shoot them.  That would be like shooting the dog for barking...or you for being an imbecile.

This guy was a whacko who wanted someone to die for his misery.  Conservatism is about as culpable for this as John Carmack is for Columbine.  To lay it even partially at the feet of people with a political ideology you disagree with and blame for your and everyone else's problems only serves to put your own persecution complex on display and is an illogical and irrational attempt to justify yourself. 

Others here have said it before--golly gee, I've said it on several occasions, myself--but it bears repeating once more for emphasis:  YOU ARE AN EPIC IDIOT.  That's the real reason you don't have a job, and I predict that, when you die--which is regrettable but necessary--you will do so poor and alone. 
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: IDE on Jul 30, 2008, 02:40:13 PM
I think I may have just read one too many D posts.

I'll 2nd that motion.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: B E C K on Jul 30, 2008, 08:40:24 PM
The motion is passed.  *bangs gavel*



Was quoting with a "*" supposed to represent a sphincter or did I just interpret that on my own?
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Aug 01, 2008, 12:53:16 AM
Asterisks commonly represent everything in a search field.  For instance, go to the search function in Windows and search the hard drive for "*.mp3", and you'll find every mp3 you have on it.  After originally quoting his drivel I decided that I didn't want to repost that garbage.  I chose "*" as a restrained symbol of disrespect, as opposed to "insert ignorant and idiotic bullshit here." 
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democra
Post by: The D on Aug 01, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
Maybe I'm just sick of all the damn conservatives blaming liberals for all the problems in the world. The gunman of course made his own decision to kill people, and I doubt anyone would have been able to talk him out of it, but considering he was a big fan of liberal haters like Michael Savage and read books and listened to anti-liberal radio shows, it gave him a target for his hate and anger. If he wasn't into that kind of shit, he might have shot up a bunch of mexicans or blacks or something.

I hate the finger pointing in politics, no one in government ever seems to want to take responsibility for anything and ends up blaming the other party or ideology. Conservatives and liberals blame each other, republicans and democrats blame each other. I see it most from the conservative side with their constant liberal bashing and blaming liberals for terrorism, 9/11, the recession, gas prices, slavery, the Great Depression, mexican immigrants, WWII, global warming, and high crime rates. It's this kind of attitude that gives idiots like the killer a target for their hatred. "Hate the other side" seems to be the easiest thing to do.





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Time for a distraction! *flees*


Quote
OTTAWA (AFP) — Police charged a suspect Friday with unpremeditated murder in the horrific stabbing, beheading and gutting of a fellow bus passenger returning home from a carnival in Western Canada.

Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton faces a charge of second-degree murder, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police announced.

The victim was 22 years old, police said. Friends identified him as Tim McLean, a happy-go-lucky young man who was returning home to Winnipeg from a job as a carnival worker in Edmonton.

According to reports, McLean had been listening to music and texting friends and family, his cheek pressed against the window of the bus when his assailant struck suddenly, stabbing him repeatedly in the chest with a "big Rambo knife."

The other 34 passengers and the driver were jolted by "blood-curdling screams" and fled, bracing the door on their way out to trap the assailant inside the bus, witness Garnet Caton told public broadcaster CBC....


The suspect, described as a large man wearing sun glasses, had been on the bus for only an hour and did not sit near McLean at first, said Caton.

During a stop, the suspect smoked a cigarette and then moved to the back of the bus to find an empty seat next to McLean, stowing his bags in an overhead bin, he said.

Half an hour later, he struck.

The bus driver, hearing screams, pulled to the side of the road and opened the door.

Passengers scrambled over one another, according to witnesses cited by the Globe and Mail newspaper. An elderly woman was knocked to the floor. A mother seated at the rear threw her toddler several rows forward to get the child away from danger.

When Caton and two others returned to chell on the victim, he said they saw the attacker "cutting the guy's head off and gutting him."

"While we were watching ... he calmly walked up to the front (of the bus) with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stared at us and dropped the head right in front of us."

"There was no rage in him and he wasn't swearing or cursing or anything, it was just like he was a robot or something."

Moments later, police surrounded the bus and arrested the man after a nearly three-hour standoff, an official said. "He was taunting police with the head in his hand out the window," said Caton.

The suspect eventually jumped out of a broken window of the bus parked on the side of the desolate highway, and was subdued by police, RCMP Sergeant Steve Colwell told a press conference.
link (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hoczcuPE_UmFBTYWTuAUE6exnydw)

 :puke:
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Faye Valentine on Aug 01, 2008, 10:19:49 PM
this is fucked up. i remember i read it while i was at work and for the first time in months i was like "what the fuck is wrong with these people". like, really. ive heard fucked up shit before, but this is way too much
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 01, 2008, 11:44:50 PM
it reminds me of Patrick Bateman.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Aug 02, 2008, 12:40:56 AM
D, you're talking like liberals don't blame conservatives for the problems in the world.  It's tit for tat...oddly enough, you even note this later on in your rambling, incoherent post.  Reactionaries don't have a monopoly on insanity...ever heard of the Unabomber, for instance?  You mention conservative sources of liberal bashing, as if you'd never heard of Media Matters, MoveOn.org, the Huffington Post, the Daily Kos, and San Francisco...that's just a starter list. 

Conservatives don't corner the market on hatred.  You're living proof.

BTW: "tat."
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Faye Valentine on Aug 02, 2008, 03:08:31 AM
it reminds me of Patrick Bateman.
hmmm delicious Patrick Bateman...hmmm
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 02, 2008, 09:07:34 AM
it reminds me of Patrick Bateman.
hmmm delicious Patrick Bateman...hmmm

remember, we were talking about someone repeatedly stabbing someone else and then decapitating them - that's how i arrived at patrick bateman...
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Derrick on Aug 02, 2008, 09:43:50 AM
...is that business card made with Bone stock?

... >.<
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 02, 2008, 11:15:43 AM
-Good Coloring
-That's 'bone' and the lettering is something called "scillian rail"

Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Derrick on Aug 02, 2008, 05:44:47 PM
That's nothing, eggshell with Romalian type.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 03, 2008, 11:30:54 PM
I can't believe that Bryce prefers Van Patten's card to mine.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Derrick on Aug 04, 2008, 02:40:40 PM
Tell me, where do you want to go. Anywhere, your choice.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 04, 2008, 03:03:23 PM
I'm not going anywhere without a reservation.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Derrick on Aug 04, 2008, 05:33:46 PM
Oh, I can't get a reservation anywhere. They all know me. Swing by my place at 7 for drinks?
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 05, 2008, 01:25:00 AM
Paul, squash?
No can do, got an 8:30 Res at Dorsia.  Great sea urchin seviche
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Derrick on Aug 05, 2008, 11:06:46 AM
*eye twitches*
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 05, 2008, 10:41:15 PM
8:30 res at dorsia, how'd he swing that?
I bet he's lying.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Derrick on Aug 06, 2008, 07:22:18 AM
No, I know Huey Lewis. I helped him write 'The Power of Love', which really defines his sound as both a cinematic force and a crossover hit that will electrify both the pop and modern rock charts.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 06, 2008, 08:10:14 AM
Not a big music fan, huh?
No...I just don't really like singers.  Huey's too black-sounding for me
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: The D on Aug 06, 2008, 02:11:23 PM
and San Francisco...

The whole city of San Fransisco? Wow, that's a broad generalization there.

You know, I've been to San Fransisco, and I have yet to see why it gets so much dislike from Conservatives (besides the gay marriage but I didn't see any of that). I would say the pr0n shops on every urban street corner, but then again Detroit has a lot of those too.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Bernie AKA on Aug 06, 2008, 03:01:51 PM
Maybe some people are jealous because they can't afford the real estate.  Who knows.  My ultra-right-wing nephew and his wife are having a fine old time living in San Francisco - no complaints from him.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 06, 2008, 03:07:31 PM
and San Francisco...

The whole city of San Fransisco? Wow, that's a broad generalization there.

You know, I've been to San Fransisco, and I have yet to see why it gets so much dislike from Conservatives (besides the gay marriage but I didn't see any of that). I would say the pr0n shops on every urban street corner, but then again Detroit has a lot of those too.

I mean, it's the whole culture there.  Haight-Ashbury was the epicenter of the entire hippie movement, and there's still a lot of residual 'fuck the government/let me have my marijuana in peace/free love/etc etc' in that city.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Aug 06, 2008, 09:29:06 PM
I mentioned it slightly tongue-in-cheek, but it was very slight.  When you consider that this is the area responsible for banning JROTC from city schools, electing left-wing standard-bearer Nancy Pelosi, being well known as "the gay bay", serves as the foremost sanctuary city for illegal alien criminals, and is the headquarters for the 9th Circus Court of Appeals, the shoe fits pretty darn well.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 06, 2008, 10:37:24 PM
I mentioned it slightly tongue-in-cheek, but it was very slight.  When you consider that this is the area responsible for banning JROTC from city schools, electing left-wing standard-bearer Nancy Pelosi, being well known as "the gay bay", serves as the foremost sanctuary city for illegal alien criminals, and is the headquarters for the 9th Circus Court of Appeals, the shoe fits pretty darn well.

I'll agree with all of that except for the 'foremost sanctuary city for illegal alien criminals' part.  I think that's disputable.

Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: Rodent of Unusual Size on Aug 06, 2008, 11:23:05 PM
I'll give you that.  But Mayor Newsom is a poster-child for the practice.
Title: Re: Gunman shoots up church because he hates gays, blacks, liberals, and democrats
Post by: ekerou etaou on Aug 07, 2008, 07:58:59 AM
hmm, i'm unfamiliar with that mayor; it's wikipedia time, i guess.