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Title: Bush = Pro-Life? Think again!
Post by: Bernie AKA on Oct 22, 2004, 11:56:31 AM
Excerpt from the Sojourner online:

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Enter George W. Bush in 2001. One would expect the abortion rate to continue its consistent course downward, if not plunge. Instead, the opposite happened.... (numerical stats breakdown snipped out)  Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates appears to have reversed. Given the trends of the 1990s, 52,000 more abortions occurred in the United States in 2002 than would have been expected before this change of direction.

How could this be? I see three contributing factors:

First, two thirds of women who abort say they cannot afford a child (Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life Web site). In the past three years, unemployment rates increased half again. Not since Hoover had there been a net loss of jobs during a presidency until the current administration. Average real incomes decreased, and for seven years the minimum wage has not been raised to match inflation. With less income, many prospective mothers fear another mouth to feed.

Second, half of all women who abort say they do not have a reliable mate (Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life). Men who are jobless usually do not marry. Only three of the 16 states had more marriages in 2002 than in 2001, and in those states abortion rates decreased. In the 16 states overall, there were 16,392 fewer marriages than the year before, and 7,869 more abortions. As male unemployment increases, marriages fall and abortion rises.

Third, women worry about health care for themselves and their children. Since 5.2 million more people have no health insurance now than before this presidency - with women of childbearing age overrepresented in those 5.2 million - abortion increases.

The U.S. Catholic Bishops warned of this likely outcome if support for families with children was cut back.... What does this tell us? Economic policy and abortion are not separate issues; they form one moral imperative. Rhetoric is hollow, mere tinkling brass, without health care, health insurance, jobs, child care, and a living wage. Pro-life in deed, not merely in word, means we need policies that provide jobs and health insurance and support for prospective mothers.

Not a personal criticism of anyone's beliefs at all, but related to the question I ask every pro-lifer:  How do you help after the baby whose birth you're partially responsible for gets here??

 
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Post by: B E C K on Oct 23, 2004, 02:28:45 AM
With a sword.  "There can be only one!"
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 23, 2004, 03:30:41 PM
I heard about this on the News. FUCK A BUSH! His policies are the real killer of babies. Pro Choice means that the babies are killed cleanly, instead of stabbed to death by a coat hangar. Banning abortion will not equal no more abortions. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Post by: Faye Valentine on Oct 24, 2004, 07:54:55 PM
i have this feeling that Bush is gonna win
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Post by: The D on Oct 24, 2004, 10:12:47 PM
I hope to god not
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Post by: Sam on Oct 24, 2004, 10:15:01 PM
You're right.  It's all George Bush's fault.  It certainly wouldn't help if people would STOP FUCKING IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT A CHILD!!!

Christ, is it that hard to CLOSE YOUR GODDAMN LEGS?
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Post by: B E C K on Oct 25, 2004, 12:37:20 AM
I still say there should be forced sterilization here.  Go eugenics!
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 25, 2004, 12:38:37 AM
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You're right.  It's all George Bush's fault.  It certainly wouldn't help if people would STOP FUCKING IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT A CHILD!!!

Christ, is it that hard to CLOSE YOUR GODDAMN LEGS?!
Just because you can't get any, doesn't mean everyone else should be penalized.

Fuck A Bush
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Post by: B E C K on Oct 25, 2004, 12:42:58 AM
Was that ever appropriate.
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Post by: Sam on Oct 25, 2004, 01:22:47 AM
Wow, relevent and thought provoking too
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Post by: Bernie AKA on Oct 25, 2004, 09:04:08 AM
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STOP FUCKING IF YOU CAN'T SUPPORT A CHILD!!!

Christ, is it that hard to CLOSE YOUR GODDAMN LEGS?

Shelly is 1000% right on that call.
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 09:21:26 AM
Well then why are women so hot all of the time?
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Post by: Bernie AKA on Oct 25, 2004, 09:26:03 AM
Nothing wrong with hot women AND men who plan ahead, i.e. birth control.  It's the ones looking for a meal ticket you have to be careful of.   One she pops that kid, you're stuck for the next 18 years, ready or not.
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 09:28:57 AM
My last serious girlfriend lost it when I told her I was leaving, and pleaded with me to impregnate her. :(



I'm serious.  
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 25, 2004, 12:23:15 PM
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My last serious girlfriend lost it when I told her I was leaving, and pleaded with me to impregnate her. :(



I'm serious.
And then you rode away with Liv Tyler in your Mercedes?
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 12:57:18 PM
Uhhhhhhh.  :huh:


I don't get it.  :huh:  
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Post by: Sam on Oct 25, 2004, 01:54:21 PM
He's trying to be funny again.  Just smile and nod.
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 25, 2004, 02:22:31 PM
:)

*nods*
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 03:10:08 PM
I think you're implying that I'm Alicia Silverstone.


Which wouldn't be that bad, really. I like her.
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 25, 2004, 03:49:40 PM
That's the greates video ever. I don't like the song, so it's mute worthy.
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 04:09:07 PM
That's dumb. It's a great song.
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 25, 2004, 04:34:17 PM
I don't like Arrowsmith too much. It's the fact that they've worked with the scum of the Earth openly that makes me retch.
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 07:55:07 PM
What scum of what Earth?

And it's Aerosmith.
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 25, 2004, 07:55:35 PM
Britney Spears and N'Synch. Fuck Steven Tyler, he shoulda died @ 27.
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 07:56:49 PM
N*SYNC. And what did they ever, ever, ever, EVER do to annot you or get in your way at all?  
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 25, 2004, 08:12:27 PM
...you're kidding.
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 09:36:04 PM
They were not integrated in any way with anything that you like. You went out of your way to hate them, as do people with all boy bands.

You actively made the choice to NOT ignore them, and blame them and their fans for it.
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Post by: Bitch on Oct 25, 2004, 09:41:04 PM
I used to be an N*SYNC fan. I even had a poster.

Doe this mean Tom hate me?
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 09:43:08 PM
It should make you normal. They're hot.

And Bass made a damn fine Sephiroth.
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Post by: Bitch on Oct 25, 2004, 09:44:23 PM
I haven't heard it yet. Gimme sound clips, dammit!
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Post by: MegatronYES on Oct 25, 2004, 10:07:26 PM
I don't have any. But he was quite good, rest assured.
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Post by: Bitch on Oct 26, 2004, 12:03:44 AM
Dammit. Guess I'll just have to wait for Christmas before I get a chance. :\
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 26, 2004, 12:53:18 AM
:lol:
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Post by: B E C K on Oct 26, 2004, 02:23:12 AM
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--Was that ever appropriate.

--Wow, relevent and thought provoking too
Well I meant more like the double meaning of the "fuck a bush" part, not anything else he said.

And is tom misspelling band names on purpose?
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Post by: Evil Monkey-Tom on Oct 26, 2004, 10:08:52 AM
*shrugs* I didn't have a reason behind it.