The Sphere
General Garbage => Tropical Paradise of Hard Shelled Fruits => Topic started by: Dagurasu on May 08, 2006, 11:57:29 AM
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My uncle and attorney think the best thing for me is to start over with my life and move to Arizona with my uncle so he can show me how to become independant. Their idea is that I rely on my mother too much, that I'm in a comfort bubble and that the only way to grow up and become mature is to be forced to live on my own.
Why Arizona? Because that's where my uncle lives. He used to live in Michigan, but moved to Phoenix a couple years ago and now regards the place as paradise on earth. Personally, I don't like the state. I love forests and trees and woods, and there's none of that in AZ. Too dry, too barren, too hot. Rather live in Texas, at least they have natural trees. :P
All the reasons I've thought about staying in Michigan they think are irrelevant. I have friends here? Get new ones in AZ. I know my way around Detroit? You'll figure out Phoenix soon enough. I don't like AZ? You'll get used to it. I have a nice school? ASU has hotter chicks (this is my uncle talking). Might not find a job or place down there? AZ has more growth and oppertunity, you'll find something.
I just don't like the idea of being forced to do something. Being an adult means making your own choices, having your own freedom of will to do what you want.
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Somewhat better.
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Yea, I know it's a long emoish rant, but when certain members of your family are practically forcing you to move across the country to a place you don't want to live, so they can form you in their image and make you grow up to be like them, you want to start stabbing someone.
*STAB*
Fuck this shit.
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...there may be another option....
If I can get a job and a house by the end of the month.. prove that I'm an adult....maybe then they won't try to force me to move out there....
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In your defense, moving IS pretty gay.
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wtf, even I might have to move somewhere else to work! If I can, then you can
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If they're willing to pay for your move, I say go for it. There's nothing saying you can't try it for a while and then go back to Michigan if you don't like it.
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Yeah, if they're paying, you're not really out anything. You apparently don't like your family that much, so what the heck? And the red state/religion shit is just an excuse. Nobody really gives a damn if you're a Democrat or an atheist...those are personal failings. Worry about getting a job and an education first and foremost. Prioritization indicates maturity. When you do become indepedent and job marketable, then you can move to frickin' Berkley with the rest of the godless liberals.
Of course, if Arizona's not your bag, don't be too upset about it; by all accounts it's better than Mississippi, and I don't have it too bad. At least AZ doesn't have thunderstorms, tornadoes, and bugs like we do.
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Gah, there I go again.
All these times you guys complain about me bitching and being emo and I go and write another long and bitchy post! But dammit, I had to get that out. I may go back and delete most of that. Or make it shorter.
My uncle has a point. Stagnation and being too confortable with your life, no matter how much it sucks, will keep you from making your life better. I've seen 30+ year olds stay with their shitty jobs, afraid of going to get a new one because at least the shitty one pays the bills. And often, the reason why us people stay at home is because our parents are afraid to let us out in the evil world, and we're afraid of being independant and having to deal with responsibilities, so we stay at home where we're safe.
So a swift boot to the rear isn't a bad thing. And I do want to be independant.
However, after some thought, I think I know why I'm afraid to move to my uncle's place, besides the fact that I hate arid and dry places.
it's because my uncle's conservative and religious.
I think he's trying to make me like him. He considers me like a son already, I think he wants me to be just like him. The problem is, he's deeply religious, he thinks things like alcohol, profanity, rock music, and violent video games are bad, and he's conservative. When he lived here I had to deal with him and his wife looking down on everything I did.. "Do you think Jesus would approve of you drinking alcohol/masturbating/looking at pr0n/playing video games/listing to metallica/ect..."
I don't mind living with him, just as long as he fucking respects my beliefs and opinions. The world doesn't fucking revolve around Jesus.
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If you believe in Him, it does.
But I'm with you on hesitating at moving in with them. I hardly see how you're going to learn to be independent by trading living with Mom for living with your aunt and uncle.
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I love (...) wood(...)
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The cool thing about Arizona is that the illegal's kids won't be able to file police reports or sue when you rape them. "Powet 2 U, Doug!"
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The chick from Hooraygoldengod.gif was from ASU.
Also you only live once (because you're an atheist, I'm going to be reincarnated to liberate the space colonies from their terran oppressors in 2174, but in the mean time let me give you some advice).
There's a whole fucking world out there. Get out there and see it NOW while you're young! Do you really want to be back packing across europe molesting swedish children at age 48? The hell you do!
Go to thailand now while you're young and still able to impress that 14 yr old prostitute! seize the day D! SEIZE THE DAY!
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I'd say take the opportunity. Move with your uncle and then you can work on moving out on your own.
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Phoenix is set up like a giant grid. It's the easiest city in the country to drive around.
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Miami is set up like that too.
I miss Rhode Island.
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I don't mind the idea of getting out on my own that much (except that overwelming fear of being homeless or having to pay a thousand dollars in bills a month). And all of you still living with parents can't say shit.
The thing that bugs me the most is the distance and the timing. Now, if he were to want me to move in 6 months, that's one thing. But he acts like he wants me to move in 2 weeks or so.
At first he just expected me to drive down to Arizona in my car without proper preperation. Normal adults go down to the new place where they'll live before they move, and find a place to live and a job to work at. He just assumed that I could drive down there and instantly find a job and eventually a place to live, after living with him for less than a month. Now he's decided to have me fly down there on a plane next week and look around.
He needs to remember that moving takes planning and doing shit. It's going to cost a lot of money for gas alone to drive 2000+ miles, not to mention moving van costs. I have to switch banks. I have to set up my cell phone for the new area. I have to register as a driver and stuff down there. I have to pack. I have to decide what I want to take and what I don't want to take. It's not like I'm fleeing the mafia here.
I really wish it was closer though. Like a few states over. Instead of across the entire damn country. Not only would it cost less in gas, hotel, and van fees, but then I could just drive to see my family.
I wish my uncle would stop acting like Arizona's fucking paradise. Ever since he moved down there he's been asking me when I was going to move too. I'd call him or he'd call me and he'd ask me when I'm moving. I'd go to visit and the first words out of his fucking mouth are "When are you moving down?" I have the right to choose where I live dammit.
And if he expects me to go to church with him once I get a place of my own... no. Nazaranes are too strict of a church.. they even frown on alcohol. I'd rather join a more liberal church.
....I have to admit though, a part of me is excited about the chance to go on a road trip and move to somewhere new and different, like it's an adventure. I just wish it wasn't a desert out in the middle of nowhere and lightyears from family.
I also wanted to drive the entire Route 66, so I'll probably do that on the way there. And then post pics here :D
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*is training to become a Pharmacy Tech*
x.x
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I'm not sure who it is that still lives with their parents that you're attempting to talk down to.
Not that there's anything wrong with that but really... that's such a stupid thing to say and the last time I heard it those words come from this disgustingly creepy 40 year old gay pedophile anime fan I know ... well enough to avoid.
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I also wanted to drive the entire Route 66, so I'll probably do that on the way there. And then post pics here :D
why route 66?whats in there?
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It's a famous US road as a route to the west from the midwest.
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but why is it famous?
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Route 66. Think about it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_66 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_66)
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I also wanted to drive the entire Route 66, so I'll probably do that on the way there. And then post pics here.
That'll be diffcult since Route 66 goes all the way to LA. That would be a little out of the way don't you think?
And Route 66 is a major highway that use to run from Chicago to LA.They called it America's main street. It went down from Chicago, through Missouri, across Ok, the top half of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and then into the bottom half of Cali straight into LA.
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I'm not sure who it is that still lives with their parents that you're attempting to talk down to.
Ha, I think Merla took offense to it. I don't see why. It's like a blind kid making fun of your glasses.
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A blind kid with herpes and several other diseases unable to be identified by the CDC.
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I can't tell if you're trying to bring Faye back into the conversation or not.
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I thought it was for D...but it does sound like a Faye insult.
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Hence my confusion.
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I was adding D, since he's a self proclaimed manslut of the preschool. Looking back I see it wasn't good and could be taken otherwise.
Oh well, online classes suck and have fucked me up. Curse Florida for making 9 credit hours of it manditory. x.x
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Curse Florida for making 9 credit hours of it manditory. x.x
Good thing they didn't make spelling.
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Hey! I can't proofread every.... Oh.... Sorry. Force of habit.
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:lol:
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In the interests of full disclosure, I live at home with my mother. It's been tough on her since Dad died, and she can't keep up the homeplace by herself. So I do the outdoors work and pay the monthly bills, and I stay there rent-free and eat Mom's cooking. I work full-time and have a full slate of things to do for myself, so it doesn't interfere or hamper my lifestyle in any way. And I don't interfere or hamper that of my mother. In all the time I spent in college, my roommates have always been cankersores to deal with...but I get along fine with my mom.
Why do I need a place of my own? I pretty much have one as is. It's not as if I ever came up with any overriding reasons to find another place to live...it's not like I drink/dope or am sexually promiscuous or anything I wouldn't want her to find out. Besides, if anything happened to her (God forbid), the place would wind up belonging to me, anyway.
Speaking personally, living alone sucks. I'll find someone to live the rest of my life and start a family with all in due time. In the meantime, this works fine.
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Curse Florida for making 9 credit hours of it manditory. x.x
Good thing they didn't make spelling.
Oh, because I spelled manditory instead of mandatory.
Hahahahah. :unsure:
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Route 66 is easy to drive though. You start at Chicago, go through St. Louis, Oklahoma City, Armarillo, Alberqerque, Hollbrook (I've been there once, the highway passes right through downtown), past the meteor crater, and into Flagstaff, where I'd head south. The rest of it's through Californa and is probably boring.
Should have been Route 69.
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Living alone sure does suck. I pretty much moved out 'cause it wasn't convenient to have sex at my parents' place (I shared a room). I'm just a social person though and get bored when there's no one around. Fiance moves in in 2 months so it's no big deal.
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I don't want to end up like that guy on Dr. G Medical Examiner who died and only days later does a neighbor find his bloated, green, already decomposing body because he lived alone.
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I lived alone after my girlfriend & I broke up and after my divorce. I enjoyed the independence. If I hadn't met Eddie, I certainly wouldn't be living with someone for the sake of having company. And there's no feeling like getting everything situated in your first apartment and getting that "This is MY place" feeling. Sam can relate. :) And I still remember getting a watermelon, cutting it after it was cold and eating the best part out of the middle at the sink - no damn newspaper on the table under the plate and carefully-cut slice.
D, Because I'm feeling metaphoric now, I'll use our foster puppies as an example. They're alive and healthy because one of them had the curiosity/guts to climb out of the trash pile when he heard Eddie dropping off the donations (Purple Heart truck site) and I saw him. The other two were cringing safely in an old blanket. I don't know where they'd be if he hadn't, but Ibe assured they're in pretty sweet circumstances now at our house and will stay there until they're adopted.
I'm sure your uncle doesn't want to make a mistake anymore than you do. What about a two-week trial visit? Live under his roof as a family member, have a serious talk with him about respecting one another's beliefs and opinions and see where it goes from there. You should be able to determine whether he seriously wants to be a bridge to your independence, as I did when loaned my nephew money to get his car & set up his business, or whether he sees you as a conversion project.
And believe me, you can live in a red state and find plenty of kindred non-conservative spirits. :P
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Check this out:
http://forums.shwiggie.com/uploads/post-6-1147368675.ibf (http://forums.shwiggie.com/uploads/post-6-1147368675.ibf)
Looks pretty even to me.
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Somebody artistic needs to swipe that, add a few personal touches, entitle it "Face of an Embarassed Nation" and mass-produce posters & lithos.
I think the whole red/blue thing is stupid myself. Let's all get together and be a big old purple Tinky-Winky party! :D
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I got mad because he refused to own up to anything. He has to always make the situation about other people. This is not about anyone else but him. I also refuse to explain myself to the like of him. Doug quit your crying and just move to Arizona all ready. A fresh start may do you wonders.
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You should be able to determine whether he seriously wants to be a bridge to your independence, as I did when loaned my nephew money to get his car & set up his business, or whether he sees you as a conversion project.
He sees me as a conversion project, but not in a religious way. I'll explain in a new thread.
*waits for thread topic to change*
*twiddles thumbs*
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So yeah, it was bloated and green.
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Did you try to pop it?
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Phoenix is set up like a giant grid. It's the easiest city in the country to drive around.
Most of the city is a giant grid, with the exception of some black sheep neighborhoods, usually where all the illegals and undesirables live.
Detroit's also was planned when it was first founded to be a giant grid. For the most part it still is. Some of the neighborhoods are nothing more than square-mile main road squares with a smaller grid of residental streets. The east-west streets are named by mile, like 6 mile, 7 mile, 8 mile, 9 mile, 10 mile...
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Oh, "8 Mile" in bold. Cause it's jus like that guy Eminem. Cause he came out in a movie. A movie the very name of that street! except no 1 carez!111